RAID immuned ants??!?!

larciel

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i live in So.California.. and little ants are always a problem here :p

we used all sorts of regular Raid to kill those ants.. i spray about half a can around my house where i see bazillion ants..

they go away for about couple months and starts to come back..

yesterday i killed an ant with my finger and noticed this weird smell .. smells chemical .. and i'm pretty sure that it's because of damm raid..

anyone noticed same?. i haven't used raid yet, but i believe ants are getting used to the raid.. and maybe live by eating it!! :Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q

 

Antoneo

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Originally posted by: larciel
yesterday i killed an ant with my finger and noticed this weird smell .. smells chemical .. and i'm pretty sure that it's because of damm raid..

After that you smelled your finger?? :disgust:

:Q
 

PowerMacG5

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It's called Survival of the fittest. The ants that have the gene for immunity to RAID live, and procreate, creating more. It's similar to bacteria that are immune to penicillin.
 

tweakmm

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I thought it was common knowledge that after a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Marauder911
It's called Survival of the fittest. The ants that have the gene for immunity to RAID live, and procreate, creating more. It's similar to bacteria that are immune to penicillin.

If you're directing that at me, I guess you didn't recognize the sarcasm.
 

Antoneo

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I think it's called re-infestation.

"anyone noticed same?. i haven't used raid yet, but i believe ants are getting used to the raid.. and maybe live by eating it!!"

So how do you conclude that the ants are "eating" the Raid if you haven't used it yet? Are we talking sprays or traps?
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.

You don't kill virus's with anti-biotics, you kill bacteria with that. When you have a viral infection, the doctor usually cannot prescribe anything to you (now for the flu they can, it's called Tamiflu). And the organisms' don't get used to it, the one's that are genetically predisposed to not be affected by it live, while the others die.
 

Indolent

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that after a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.

*edit* marauder beat me to it....
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Originally posted by: Marauder911
It's called Survival of the fittest. The ants that have the gene for immunity to RAID live, and procreate, creating more. It's similar to bacteria that are immune to penicillin.

If you're directing that at me, I guess you didn't recognize the sarcasm.

No, I was directing it at the OP. You just happened to post a couple of seconds before me.
 

NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that after a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.
but you can't kill viruses with antibiotics....
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that after a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.
but you can't kill viruses with antibiotics....

Already mentioned that. :beer: for thinking alike.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that after a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.
but you can't kill viruses with antibiotics....

you can if you smash the viruses with the pill! WHAM!
 

rh71

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Baits worked very well here. Spray is only for an immediate area. Gotta use the ants against their own kind and let them feed off the poison. I haven't seen them for an entire year so far after I used it (baits are still set).
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Marauder911
Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.

You don't kill virus's with anti-biotics, you kill bacteria with that. When you have a viral infection, the doctor usually cannot prescribe anything to you (now for the flu they can, it's called Tamiflu). And the organisms' don't get used to it, the one's that are genetically predisposed to not be affected by it live, while the others die.
Over time a species "gets used to the poision" by way of the ones that die, die, and the ones that survive pass the survivor genes onto their offspring.

BAH! To all of you, you know exactly what I mean with viruses and bacterial infections. Too much wine makes one mix up words.:wine:
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Marauder911
Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.

You don't kill virus's with anti-biotics, you kill bacteria with that. When you have a viral infection, the doctor usually cannot prescribe anything to you (now for the flu they can, it's called Tamiflu). And the organisms' don't get used to it, the one's that are genetically predisposed to not be affected by it live, while the others die.
Over time a species "gets used to the poision" by way of the ones that die, die, and the ones that survive pass the survivor genes onto their offspring.

BAH! To all of you, you know exactly what I mean. Too much wine makes one mix up words.:wine:

And that's what I said. THe term getting used to does not really apply correctly to natural selection though.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Marauder911
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Marauder911
Originally posted by: tweakmm
I thought it was common knowledge that a length of time, organisims get used to whatever they are trying to be killed with. The real problem is not going to be when you can't kill ants with raid, it's going to be when you can't kill viruses with anti-biotics.

You don't kill virus's with anti-biotics, you kill bacteria with that. When you have a viral infection, the doctor usually cannot prescribe anything to you (now for the flu they can, it's called Tamiflu). And the organisms' don't get used to it, the one's that are genetically predisposed to not be affected by it live, while the others die.
Over time a species "gets used to the poision" by way of the ones that die, die, and the ones that survive pass the survivor genes onto their offspring.

BAH! To all of you, you know exactly what I mean. Too much wine makes one mix up words.:wine:

And that's what I said. THe term getting used to does not really apply correctly to natural selection though.
Don't start arguing semantics. Over time the species as a whole does get used to the toxin by means of natural selection.