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Radeon x800 XL Crashing

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galbicake

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I have a Radeon x800 XL. I had these random computer crashes while playing video games (Day of Defeat) and it started happening after I installed my Hauppauge PVR-150. It would randomly crash with the screen turning green, purple, white colors in pixelated blocks. I initially thought it was a hardware compatability issue, so I pulled out all the hardware cards in my system and reinstalled all the drivers.

However, I still had problems so I did a system check with Everest. My GPU was about 49 degrees on just regular status and running in the high 70s when being worked with a video test.

The GPU fan was blowing so I didn't know what was wrong. I went to CompUSA and purchased a Zalman GPU fan. When I came home, I opened up the radeon fan cover and it noticed a nice layer of dust/lint blocking across the heat spreaders right before the fan outtake. I peeled it off and not it is running about 10 degrees cooler.

However, I am still have crash issues (not as much as before).

Any ideas people?
 
It's crashing after you installed the Zalman GPU HS/F or you haven't installed it yet?

If you haven't I would try the card in another machine before installing the it if possible since it will technically void your warranty.
 
I do not think I am OCing it. I never tried it.

As for the Zalman, I have not yet installed it. I do not have another PC to test it on.

Does anyone have any experience in this?

Thanks
 
Originally posted by: galbicake
I do not think I am OCing it. I never tried it.

As for the Zalman, I have not yet installed it. I do not have another PC to test it on.

Does anyone have any experience in this?

Thanks
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I had a 9800 Pro do something similar once. Thought it might have been overheating but after checking the heatsink (VF-700) a few times and even removing the shim nothing wrong could be found. As it turned out the card just decided to slowly die for reasons unknown.

That might not have been very helpful but I guess I wouldn?t assume the card is overheating. Even with poor ventilation the stock HS/F should be able to keep things under control.
 
I would tend to agree at this point.

It is getting to the point that it crashes randomly whenever a graphic related program is running.

Last night, I just opened up Day of Defeat (game) and as soon as it started loading, it crashed. So overheating was not an issue since it didn't even have time to heat too far above the idle temp.

I am just disappointed because I have had this card for about 1 year...The customer service for ATI sucks. You cannot find a tech support # on the website, I found one in the manual but it is a paid service. I RMA this thing over a month ago and they decided to close the ticket out as resolved without even speaking with me.

I haven't heard a bad thing about nVidia and the choice seems likely that I will buy one of their cards next. Performance-wise seems to favor them too...

*SIGH*
 
I had a 9200 crap out on me like that once... I thought it was overheating but it turned out that the powersupply was dying... the card ran fine after I replaced the PS. May wanna double check your voltages there...
 
Well, I have an Ultra X-Infinity 500W PSU sitting around. From the reviews here it looks like more people are against it...

I do not know anything about PSUs. Can someone point me to a good site reference that explains what the readings mean?
 
if its not too much trouble you could throw that X-Infinity in and see if you're still crashing... I dont think you'll have any issues if you test it. Also, I think the older model of that PSU had some issues... Also, normally you can check your voltages in the bios or using a third party program. Also, theres a psu thread... check that for some good info.
 
I did a video test running about 5 mins in. This is with the stock Antec 350 PSU.

Here are the results. How do my voltages look?

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Winbond W83627THF (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type National LM63 (ATI-I2C 4Ch)
Motherboard Name MSI MS-7046 / 7100 / 7125

Temperatures
Motherboard 35 °C (95 °F)
CPU 34 °C (93 °F)
Aux 22 °C (72 °F)
GPU 63 °C (145 °F)
GPU Ambient 42 °C (108 °F)
Seagate ST3160023A 29 °C (84 °F)
Seagate ST3160023A 32 °C (90 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 2123 RPM
System 1430 RPM
North Bridge 7500 RPM

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.39 V
+3.3 V 3.26 V
+5 V 4.92 V
+12 V 11.67 V
+5 V Standby 5.06 V
VBAT Battery 2.94 V
Debug Info F 76 9F 5A
Debug Info T 35 34 22
Debug Info V 8F CC C0 B7 1C 12 02 (01)
 
I think I am going to purchase an Enhance PSU and return this Ultra one rather than just have it sit there for a week and then discard it. I can still get my money back on the Ultra one since I haven't opened it yet.

 
that Enhance will definitly be more reliable... those Antec PSU's have a tendency to crap out after awhile... Make sure you get one with a good 12v rail....
 
Thanks to Galvanized Yankees (even though I am an Orioles fan)

Enhance 600W PSU

I have two concerns on this though.

The PSU is an whole inch deeper than the one I have now. Just from what remember how my set up looks, this should not be a problem because I believe I have plenty of depth room in my Sonata.

The other concern is the overall airflow.
I have 120m Rear Exhaust, 80mm side exhaust sitting on top of the CPU, and this gigantus PSU fan sucking air out on top.

I only have a front side 80mm in take fan. I would like to replace it with a 120mm fan but fitting it looks like a problem.
 
you may have to mod the front a bit with a dremel or something. Probably wanna check to make sure you have room before you start cutting... modding a fan in there is pretty easy if you have enough space. I'm sure theres a how-to somewhere.. but I'm at work so I dont have any links handy. Or you could turn the side fan into an intake...
 
Hmm,

You have given me thoughts that I never thought of before.

I am not sure if the side fan would make sense since the Zalman I have would the pushing it out.

As for the rear fan...make that should be the way to go? Reverse it so that it is an intake. Or maybe I should just leave it open faced like I have been the past weeks because of this problem ;P

Anyone with experience on this? Or can I leave it with the original case settings and be fine?
 
you could always reverse your side fan too... but thats a lot of intake... you could always wait for the psu and see what works best. If it moves a lot of air, more intake on lower volts may not be a bad option. Of course you'll get more dust in there. If it were me I'd think about modding an exhaust fan on the back of the psu just to keep the air moving through it.
 
Well if you notice the PSU has a rear grill that expands across the entire back part of the PSU.

The intake is on the bottom of the PSU. This fan is huge at the bottom and so I do not think it would be necessary to add an external exhaust fan on the outside because what it should be doing is sucking air up from the bottom and the hot air should rise through the rear.

If I were to reverse the side fan to function as in take, the I should take off the nozzle tube that extends it down to the CPU.

I am looking at 80mm fans that are non-generic. All of those are like double bladed and stuff like that. It appears that it would not fit the fan casing for the front. Just trying to figure out if I can screw it on the grill holes on the front.
 
Ahh I forgot that those cases have that tube... if you did reverse the side fan you might be shooting a lot of dust right on the cpu unless you can make a filter. I've never had a case with that cpu tube thing, and I've never had a problem. I dont know that it would help all that much as an exhaust anyways with the tube on it. As for the 80mm fan on the front, you'll have to double check the size as most are 20mm or 25mm deep. The screw holes should line up as that is standard for 80mm fans. I do have an 80mm antec fan and its standard size, which would lead me to believe that you could swap the stock fan out with another one if you wanted to.

 
Well with the front side 80mm fan in the Sonata case. It is mounted with a plastic case. So you do not screw it on. You just put it in the case and snap it on the front grill.

The front grill has a bunch of holes, I am wondering if I can screw a modded 80mm fan onto those holes...

Another suggestion was reverse the airflow of the rear 120mm as intake and the front 80mm as out take...
 
then you would be blowing warm air over your hard drives... its a tough call... might be best to install the psu and then try different options to see what works out best. What model sonata do you have as I cant find one with the side fan?
 
Antec PSU 350W

That power supply is far too weak to run your system. But with that said, let's try a few things before spending money.

When you cleaned out all the dust bunnies, did you pay attention to how they collect in the power supply?

This post is starting to get long, so tell me again what your power values are WHILE UDER FULL LOAD and not at idle along with case, gpu and cpu temps.
 
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