Radeon Owners are a breed of there own

[SpeedTrap]

lets see first Nvidia launched there Geforce 2, then ATI launched there Radeon series a little after.

people where saying the Radeon smokes the geforce 2.

but now since the geforce 3 comes out and you compare it to the radeon they all get cranky that your comparing new against old.

well the geforce 2 was old when the radeon was new, so whats the difference.

maybe you all should quit your whinning and get ATI to make better drivers. cause building off a rage 3d driver isnt going to help.

make em get you stable reliable drivers.

who knows maybe i will get a R2 when it comes out. but I am tired of all there driver conflicts.

mmI had one so i know the 2d and some games have good 3d but i want stability in my cards and drivers so get on the horn with ATI and get some good drivers.

damm im a old man a rambling. but gotta love my GF3 and the sharp 2d and awesome framerates

 

[kami]

<< but now since the geforce 3 comes out and you compare it to the radeon they all get cranky that your comparing new against old.

well the geforce 2 was old when the radeon was new, so whats the difference.
>>


true, true...

and shouldn't nvidia have their next-gen card out in 4th quarter? will ATI have something better by then?

 

[AndrewR]

The key aspect is that Radeon offers acceptable 3D performance with excellent 2D and 3D image quality for a fraction of the price of most Nvidia products. When you add the superior DVD playback and TV tuner (with All-in-Wonder), there are more features to differentiate the ATI products from Nvidia.

Besides, if Nvidia didn't have a viable competitor, they would start producing expensive crap. Oh, wait, they ALREADY produce expensive products. NO video card is worth over $300! (unless it's for professional applications)

 

[Kelvrick]

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damm im a old man a rambling. but gotta love my GF3 and the sharp 2d and awesome framerates >>



In my personal opinion, the geforce3 only offers good 2d because it can render more and so stuff looks smoother and rounder. But if you look at color vibrancy and such, I think the radeon still whoops it. Oh, and don't call me a biased radeon owner, I have a radeon32ddr and an elsa gts.

 

[Pyro]

you need to get a life.

The GF2 was introduced in may and the radeon in July. Comparing them was quite ok, since 2 months dont make that much difference. But the GF3 is a product in its own class because the Radeon and the GF3 are released 7-8 months apart.

Your pathetic attack on ATI's drivers shows how little you know. I use Win2k and was able to reproduce Anand's results for q3 +/- 5fps under win98. I have had absolutely no problems with them.

Finally, most $350+ GF3s don't have all the features of my radeon.

 

[Pyro]

oh yeah, lets not forget the price. ATI's products are much cheaper.

 

[kami]

Pyro, no one's denying that Radeon's have more features, but some people prefer raw speed. That's all.

 

[Whisper]

The Radeon is a great card, and though I own a GF2, I respect its great 2d (which admittedly spanks my card's), its bang for the buck (I'd take an LE over an MX anyday), and its incredible performance under 32-bit applications. As for the drivers...their 2k drivers are not the BEST around, no...but they're by no means poor. The 98 drivers are great from what I hear, and just as stable as anything nVidia has put out.

As for GF2 vs. R2...only time will tell.

 

[shiner]

The GF2 was introduced in may and the radeon in July. Comparing them was quite ok, since 2 months dont make that much difference. But the GF3 is a product in its own class because the Radeon and the GF3 are released 7-8 months apart.

Your pathetic attack on ATI's drivers shows how little you know. I use Win2k and was able to reproduce Anand's results for q3 +/- 5fps under win98. I have had absolutely no problems with them.

Finally, most $350+ GF3s don't have all the features of my radeon.
I'm with you man....I had a Geforce 2 Pro and was always disappointed in it's 2d performance. I built a PC for a friend and he didn't want to pay big $ for a Nvidia product so he had me put a Radeon LE in it. I quickly flashed the LE to a full DDR, enabled Hyper-Z, and the card kicks ass and I really can't tell much difference in frame rate in games between the GF2 Pro and the Radeon. The 2d on the Radeon is a helluva lot better than my GF2 Pro, so much better that I have ordered myself a Radeon DDR 64 that costs less than 1/2 what a GF3 would.

 

[GL]

The Win2k drivers are right up there now. My AIW Radeon has definitely been the best video card I've ever had. It was a big step-up from my GeForce 2 MX and brought added performance and tons of features. When people think 2D, they think sharpness, but the colour reproduction in games with the Radeon is fantastic.

 

[kami]

About GF2 2d quality....

it all depends on who made the card. They all use different parts. I think the 2d on my Asus V7700 GF2 GTS is quite good. I run 1280x960 32bit @ 85hz and everything is crystal clear and colors are great!

I have seen cheap GF2 MX's with absolutely horrible 2d quality. My good old voodoo3 had excellent 2d quality as well. I'd say this GF2 is on par or even slightly better than my V3.