Radeon LE x Radeon 7200: What 's the better one?

[ruther]

I own a Radeon LE, but I 'd like to know if radeon 7200 is better. Any links will be apreciated...

The two have the same price in Brazil...

 

[Smbu]

The Radeon LE should be better since it uses DDR ram over the 7200's SDR ram.

 

[sash1]

Go for the LE. It is faster than the 7200, don't be decieved because the 7200 has more RAM. The DDR, albeit only 32Mb, makes it a more viable card than the 7200.

 

[Kingofcomputer]

7000 = old VE in new name, new box, new price
7200 = old Radeon SDR 64M in new name, new box, new price
7500 = old Radeon DDR 64M VIVO delete VI add DVI in new name, new box, new price.

get LE only.

 

[Shudder]

Actually the 7500 is a new card. The 7200 may be a new card with the 7500 core, just SDR memory.. Though I'm not sure about that.

 

[Rand]

<< 7000 = old VE in new name, new box, new price
7200 = old Radeon SDR 64M in new name, new box, new price
7500 = old Radeon DDR 64M VIVO delete VI add DVI in new name, new box, new price.

get LE only. >>



A few corrections, your 7200 comments are accurate besides the fact that it's clocked at 183/183 rather then 166/166 of the old 64MB SDR Radeon. The 700 however is inaccurate. The 7000 does not have the HydraVision that the VE has but it does have the full Radeon core, whereas the VE didnt so it is quite a bit faster then the older VE, it's also clocked a bit higher.
The 7500 is far away from being the old Radeon 64MB VIVO, as it lacks VIVO but adds HydraVision and a DVI output, it also contans a slight enhancement to the memory controller to boost fetch sizes, and it's also clocked over 50% faster and it's performance absolutely crushes that of the older 64MB VIVO Radeon.

Get the Radeon LE, unless you have enough money to spend on the Radeon 7500.

 

[ruther]

But one more question: I read Radeon 7500 is the old Radeon DDR, but with 0.15u, then it has a faster clock. Does it happen the same thing with Radeon 7200??? That is, Does 7200 have a faster clock too???(0.15u...)...because, if so, maybe it's not a bad thing...

Any benchmarks will be apreciatted...

 

[AznBruin03]

If you have the LE now, I'd just wait till the 8500 drops in price.

On a similar subject, what do you guys think of the old radeon ddr? Is it worth it to buy one now?

 

[Kingofcomputer]

if the old regular radeon ddr is at $60-80, that's worth to buy, otherwise $120 radeon 7500 bare card (that's with vga+dvi and tv-out hydravision) is more worth to buy.

 

[DClark]

Only the RV200 core (Radeon 7500) and R200 core (Radeon 8500) are made with the .15 micron process; the R100 core (which is used by the Radeon 7200, LE, 64mbDDR, 32mbDDR, 32mbSDR, among others) and the RV100 core (Radeon VE and 7000) are made with the .18 micron process.

As for which is better between the LE and the 7200, they're roughly the same, with the LE probably holding a slight edge. But to some, the 7200 makes up for it because its' warranty is honoured by ATi, not Althon Micro (the Radeon LE is technically a 3rd party graphics card, even though at the time ATi wasn't officially selling the Radeon core to other manufacturers). It is also said that the LEs are the last "test" batch of Radeon cores, including the "A12" core denotation (which I can verify that my LE has the A12 marking on the core), instead of the "A13" denotation of all the retail ATi cored boards. The initial Radeon 8500 preview by Tom's Hardware mentioned that their test board had an "A12" core, while the retail boards were to have "A13" cores (which means a later version with slight revisions). It makes me guess that a similar situation was done with the R100 core - the last "test" revision was sold as a budget part to help keep costs down, instead of scrapping a perfectly good batch (albeit maybe a little rough around the edges) of cores. I wouldn't be suprised to see some of the budget 250/250 and 230/230 clocked Radeon 8500s using an A12 revision core.

As for clock speed, in another forum one 7200 owner posted his speed as 155/155, and with the fact that the 7200 only comes with a heatsink and is priced for the budget market, I think that's about right. The LE is clocked to 148/148 stock, but many owners have gotten their LEs over 190/190 with overclocking. I haven't heard of anyone trying to wring some serious performance out of the 7200, but I would guess that the overclockability of the memory would be the defining factor.

 

[Melcito]

The 7200 comes with Hynix 6ns memory. That would give a max clock of 166 Mhz.