So, I'm currently using a Radeon 9800 Pro with 256 mb. Are there any warranted arguments to upgrading to the new 6800 or the new ATI card while the prices are where they are? Just wondering if most are updating and if so, what is the reason behind it.
Radeon 9800 Pro 256 Question
- Thread starter KillyKillall
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i have the same card. Can't rationalize the upgrade now. The card is working fine for me in all the current games, including doom 3. I'm certainly not buying a 500 dollar card when mine perfroms great already.
why dont you guys just flash the 9800 pro to xt? saves money and will give you a couple extra frames. 
other then that, i dont believe upgrading to a new video card will justify the performance unless you intend on getting the x800 xt or 6800 ultra.
other then that, i dont believe upgrading to a new video card will justify the performance unless you intend on getting the x800 xt or 6800 ultra.plus with a 256mb version, the likelihood of a successful flash to a 9800 xt is rather good. I'd attempt that before blowing 500 bucks on a new card.
(Might wanna have the cash though in case the flash fails badly!)
(Might wanna have the cash though in case the flash fails badly!)
apoppin
Lifer
get 10% more performance for FREE . . . do a "risk free" (unless your card is defective) BIOS flash to 9800XT . . . you might want to spent $10 or $15 more on a nice Arctic-Cooling VGA cooler since your HS/Fan is probably too "lite" for the XT.
The Radeon 9800 Pro To Radeon ...XT Mod Guide Rev. 5.0!
STUDY this very detailed guide BeFore you actually do it! it is an eXcellent guide
(my ati Radeon 256/256 is very happy as life reborn as an XT)
did i mention the flash is "reversible" for any reason?
:roll:
KillyKillall,
About a month ago I upgraded my man computer from a P4 3.4C (800 MHz FSB w/HT) to an FX-53 939. I now have the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. Until Monday I was running the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB from my "old" system. Now I have an HIS Excalibur X800 XT Platinum (256MB) which smokes! It literally gives me twice the framerate in the Halo timedemo as my 9800 Pro 256MB did. It was very expensive though ($550.00 + tax and shipping)!
A few numbers (everything set to "High" and/or turned-on:
1280x1024 = 84.115 FPS
1024x768 = 103.575 FPS
800x600 = 112.286
I play at "Legendary", and even at 1280x1024 the gameplay is REALLY fast and smooth. The badguys move a lot faster now! The game looks absolutely fantastic with everything turned on and maxed-out.
It all comes down to three things:
(1) How bad do you want the performance? Do you "have to have it" now?
(2) How much are you willing to pay for it? Six months from now the prices may come down substantially
(3) Does upgrading the video card make since without upgrading the motherboard and CPU? To run an X800 XT ot 6800-Series card you need a pretty fast system to get the most out of the card. You don't want to drop BIG bucks on a new card only to have your CPU and/or other components be a bottleneck.
From the tests that I've seen, the 6800 Ultra (which is the competition for the X800 XT) runs the majority of games slightly faster than the X800 XT WHEN ANTI-ALIASING AND ANISOTROPIC FILTERING ARE TURNED OFF OR NOT USED. When turned-on and run at high resolution the story changes.
Both the 6800-Series and the X800-Series are both good cards. I bought the HIS Excalibur X800 XT Platinum because it features the Artic Cooling IceQ II cooling solution. If you haven't seen it its' really cool. The heat from the VPU is vented to the outside of the computer case so you don't get the heat build-up you normally would without the venting.
Here's a link to the HIS website:
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/home.htm
And one to reviews of the HIS Excalibur X800 Pro and HIS Excalibur X800 XT Platinum on Tom's Hardware Guide:
http://graphics.tomshardware.c...ic/20040723/index.html
If you want to see the performance difference, try running one of the the timedemos to see what you numbers are. Of course, your system is probably very different from mine or Tom's testbed system, but you can get an idea of what you could be playing.
About a month ago I upgraded my man computer from a P4 3.4C (800 MHz FSB w/HT) to an FX-53 939. I now have the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. Until Monday I was running the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB from my "old" system. Now I have an HIS Excalibur X800 XT Platinum (256MB) which smokes! It literally gives me twice the framerate in the Halo timedemo as my 9800 Pro 256MB did. It was very expensive though ($550.00 + tax and shipping)!
A few numbers (everything set to "High" and/or turned-on:
1280x1024 = 84.115 FPS
1024x768 = 103.575 FPS
800x600 = 112.286
I play at "Legendary", and even at 1280x1024 the gameplay is REALLY fast and smooth. The badguys move a lot faster now! The game looks absolutely fantastic with everything turned on and maxed-out.
It all comes down to three things:
(1) How bad do you want the performance? Do you "have to have it" now?
(2) How much are you willing to pay for it? Six months from now the prices may come down substantially
(3) Does upgrading the video card make since without upgrading the motherboard and CPU? To run an X800 XT ot 6800-Series card you need a pretty fast system to get the most out of the card. You don't want to drop BIG bucks on a new card only to have your CPU and/or other components be a bottleneck.
From the tests that I've seen, the 6800 Ultra (which is the competition for the X800 XT) runs the majority of games slightly faster than the X800 XT WHEN ANTI-ALIASING AND ANISOTROPIC FILTERING ARE TURNED OFF OR NOT USED. When turned-on and run at high resolution the story changes.
Both the 6800-Series and the X800-Series are both good cards. I bought the HIS Excalibur X800 XT Platinum because it features the Artic Cooling IceQ II cooling solution. If you haven't seen it its' really cool. The heat from the VPU is vented to the outside of the computer case so you don't get the heat build-up you normally would without the venting.
Here's a link to the HIS website:
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/home.htm
And one to reviews of the HIS Excalibur X800 Pro and HIS Excalibur X800 XT Platinum on Tom's Hardware Guide:
http://graphics.tomshardware.c...ic/20040723/index.html
If you want to see the performance difference, try running one of the the timedemos to see what you numbers are. Of course, your system is probably very different from mine or Tom's testbed system, but you can get an idea of what you could be playing.
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