Radeon 9800: physical differences between NP and Pro?

[Bee01]

Is there a way to distinguish an Ati built Radeon 9800 NP and Pro by looking at the card? It has Samsung 3.3 ns memory on it. Perhaps a different serial or part number marked on the card somewhere? Just curious because I bought a Dell with a 9800 and the drivers say 9800 Pro (I've read XP calls everything a Pro).

I'll check out Rage3D once I get a chance.

Thanks.

 

[Lonyo]

If it has 3.3ns memory it's a 9800.

9800Pro's have 2.8ns memory I believe, because it has to be clocked higher.
3.3ns is rated for 300MHz, which gives 9800 memory speeds, with a bit of headroom.
9800Pro memory is clocked higher than the 300MHz 3.3ns is rated for.

 

[Robor]

The only physical difference I'm aware of is the pro uses faster 2.8ns Samsung memory and the non-pro uses slower 3.3 Samsung or 3.0? Infinion (sp?). The cores are the same but the non-pro is clocked slower (can't remember the difference).

Anyway, chances are good that you could run your card at or above default pro speeds. I have the same card and mine is flashed to a pro and running at 398/348.

 

[Bee01]

Thanks for the helpful replies.

 

[Maddscientist]

The only diffrence I can find is the price tag

 

[hans007]

some 9800 NP have 2.8 samsung. or even 2.2 samsung.


technically the cores on non pro 9800s dont have to make 340mhz. but its almost 100% likely they will.

 

[pelikan]

The pro card is also longer and has a few more parts on it.