Radeon 9600 64mb or XPRESS 200M 128mb for a laptop?

[LiekOMG]

I'm guessing that the 9600 would overall be better, but I just wanted to check. The 9600 would be coupled with an A64 3200+, while the M200 would be with a Celeron M 1.5ghz. The A64 laptop is bigger and heavier, and a tad more expensive. I don't really plan on playing any of the latest high end games, but I do plan on gaming a lot of the laptop (mostly older stuff, but maybe some Titan Quest and WoW). Would either of those two run acceptable on the M200?

 

[unfalliblekrutch]

the xpress200 is a x300 core with shared ram(unless that laptop gives it dedicated ram). the x300 core is a 9600 core with a smaller process, i think. I'd go with the m200 since it's smaller, probably better battery life, cheaper, and should give almost the same graphics performance.

 

[LiekOMG]

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch
the xpress200 is a x300 core with shared ram(unless that laptop gives it dedicated ram). the x300 core is a 9600 core with a smaller process, i think. I'd go with the m200 since it's smaller, probably better battery life, cheaper, and should give almost the same graphics performance.

Are you certain of this? From the specs, the 9600 seems to be at least twice the speed of the M200.

Perhaps I would get more replies in the video forum?

 

[fbrdphreak]

The Radeon Xpress 200M is BASED on the X300 core, but it only uses two pixel shaders & two vertex shaders. The MR 9600 has four of each I believe, so it will certainly perform better.

 

[Suture]

The 9600 will mop the floor with the X200. Plus keep in mind the 9600 is easily and safely overclockable to 9700 speeds.

 

[cheesehead]

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch
the xpress200 is a x300 core with shared ram(unless that laptop gives it dedicated ram). the x300 core is a 9600 core with a smaller process, i think. I'd go with the m200 since it's smaller, probably better battery life, cheaper, and should give almost the same graphics performance.

Actually, it's based more closely on the 9100 and 9200.

Remember, the X200 is using system RAM anyway, so you'll have effectively the same amount of video RAM if you're using a 64mb AGP aperture anyway. And the 9600 GPU is far, far faster.

 

[postmortemIA]

radeon 9700 mobile is same as radeon 9600 on desktop, i.e. has 4 units... i wouldn't be sure that radeon 9600 mobile is same as 9700 mobile.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
radeon 9700 mobile is same as radeon 9600 on desktop, i.e. has 4 units... i wouldn't be sure that radeon 9600 mobile is same as 9700 mobile.

It is the same. Four pixel shaders, four vertex shaders, the diff between the MR 9600 & 9700 is clocks only.

 

[abakshi]

Originally posted by: Cheesehead

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch
the xpress200 is a x300 core with shared ram(unless that laptop gives it dedicated ram). the x300 core is a 9600 core with a smaller process, i think. I'd go with the m200 since it's smaller, probably better battery life, cheaper, and should give almost the same graphics performance.

Actually, it's based more closely on the 9100 and 9200.

The 9100 was a relabeled 8500LE, and the 9200 was based on the same architecture. Neither has anything to do with the R-X200, which is a cut-down X300, which in turn is a slower X600, which itself was just the PCI-Express version of the 9600.

The 9600 will be much faster for gaming, but it'll consume a bit more power. In those machines, the difference will be huge - a Celeron-M / R-X200m vs. A64 3200+ / 9600 - no comparison at all.