Radeon 9600 256mb DDR sucks?

[Wanderer]

I finally received the vid card i ordered yesterday, VERY dissappointing. I tryed playing Battlefield... even at the lowest possible video settings it lags like a mofo. I currently have a 800mhz Duron 512k of sdr ram .... i think this may be the problem but the processor meets the suggested speed on the box and i got double the suggested ram. What do you guys think? Also the Radeon seems to run the game exactly like my g force3 . it made no diffrence

 

[fkloster]

800mhz duron = to about P2 450?

 

[Wanderer]

damn it! i dont have the money for a new setup right now
i h8 being poor, thnx fkloster i actually didnt know that
i know.. i know.. im lame
you think i should OC the cpu? i could prolly get it to a gig... maybe
i got an IWILL kk266 mobo which i heard are excellent for OCing Durons
unless it wouldnt help... which it prolly wont

 

[bjc112]

The SDRAM alone is crippling your setup..

The duron isn't helping either.

Sell that video card..

Grab a ECS k7s5a + 2500 + for like $125 or a even lower bundle price...

That coupled with your GF3 will be faster.

 

[Wanderer]

are you saying the gforce is faster than the radeon...?
damn i am lame i sold the gforce to get the radeon .. sniff sniff
but ill deffinately try to pick up that cpu/mobo combo thnx

 

[Derango]

Originally posted by: Wanderer
are you saying the gforce is faster than the radeon...?
damn i am lame i sold the gforce to get the radeon .. sniff sniff
but ill deffinately try to pick up that cpu/mobo combo thnx

No, the geforce is not faster than the radeon. However, in your situation, your system, overall, would be faster if you sold the radeon and used the money to upgrade your motherboard/cpu/ram and then used a Geforce3.

Having a fast video card won't do you any good unless you have a fast CPU to feed it with data. The fact that you saw no performance increase indicates that you are bound by your CPU.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Derango

Originally posted by: Wanderer
are you saying the gforce is faster than the radeon...?
damn i am lame i sold the gforce to get the radeon .. sniff sniff
but ill deffinately try to pick up that cpu/mobo combo thnx

No, the geforce is not faster than the radeon. However, in your situation, your system, overall, would be faster if you sold the radeon and used the money to upgrade your motherboard/cpu/ram and then used a Geforce3.

Having a fast video card won't do you any good unless you have a fast CPU to feed it with data. The fact that you saw no performance increase indicates that you are bound by your CPU.

Exactly..

If you can flip that Radeon off and try and grab a bundle... That 2500+ can last you quite awhile ( or at least till you get enough to purchase a video card at a later date.)

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: fkloster
800mhz duron = to about P2 450?

Is that a joke, or are you drunk?

 

[formulav8]

I hope your joking. A Duron 800mhz is pretty much the same as a similar clocked P3. So it would ruffly equal a P3 800mhz.


Jason

Originally posted by: fkloster
800mhz duron = to about P2 450?

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: fkloster
800mhz duron = to about P2 450?

nah, 800MHz Duron = about 700MHz PIII

but that is definitely the reason it's slow.
if you had a P4 it would be way better.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: fkloster
800mhz duron = to about P2 450?

That's slightly very wrong. It would be more like 800Mhz Duron = 850Mhz P3.

-Por

 

[Ionizer86]

That's slightly very wrong. It would be more like 800Mhz Duron = 850Mhz P3.

-Por

It depends on the chipset.

I think the 9600 256MB is acting slow since it's not a Pro or XT. Check out reviews on 128MB 9600's. The clock is much lower than that of a Pro.

 

[sandorski]

CPU is too weak, you could have a 9800XT or 5900U and still not see any improvement.

 

[bigpow]

Return the vid card to the store.
If not possible, then just hold on to it for now.
Or just sell it for a quick cash.

 

[Thegonagle]

I have to agree; the 9600 is not the problem. If you saw no difference in gameplay after, then your CPU/MB/RAM was already maxxed out before.

 

[BFG10K]

Your CPU/platform is far too slow and the 9600 is far too slow to take advantage of 256 MB VRAM.

Also the Radeon seems to run the game exactly like my g force3 . it made no diffrence

That's called CPU limitation.

 

[nick1985]

the 9600 non pro? 256 ram? ouch...you got RIPPED. next time do some research before you make an idiotic purchase.

+1 for ati's marketing

 

[Ionizer86]

Originally posted by: nick1985
the 9600 non pro? 256 ram? ouch...you got RIPPED. next time do some research before you make an idiotic purchase.

+1 for ati's marketing

Yup, Nick1985 and I were the first to note that you got a 9600 nonpro with massive amounts of extra (unused) ram. I hope you got it for a good price, cuz you can get 9600Pro's for like $130, and Bestbuy offered a 9600 nonpro for $70 once.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Ionizer86

Originally posted by: nick1985
the 9600 non pro? 256 ram? ouch...you got RIPPED. next time do some research before you make an idiotic purchase.

+1 for ati's marketing

Yup, Nick1985 and I were the first to note that you got a 9600 nonpro with massive amounts of extra (unused) ram. I hope you got it for a good price, cuz you can get 9600Pro's for like $130, and Bestbuy offered a 9600 nonpro for $70 once.

i remember when they were 70! it was at the best buy black friday deal. i saw them as i was grabbing my 120 gig HDD for $50 :beer:

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: fkloster
800mhz duron = to about P2 450?

WTF ? Its more powerful than a p2-450! More like a T-Bird 700-750Mhz with full cache.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: fkloster
800mhz duron = to about P2 450?

That's slightly very wrong. It would be more like 800Mhz Duron = 850Mhz P3.

-Por

In dream land maybe...

Duron 800Mhz = 667/133 P3 or 700/100 P3

 

[StageLeft]

It's your CPU. it sucks and is old, which is why the video card is no better than your old one because so much of a game relies on cpu that it simply can't feed the video card at all with what it's capable of.

 

[Ionizer86]

Benchmarks. 9600 NP is barely faster than a R8500, which is about the speed of a GF3 Ti500. If you upgraded from a GF3 then performance increase is probably not going to be noticeable.

 

[Gagabiji]

Originally posted by: sandorski
CPU is too weak, you could have a 9800XT or 5900U and still not see any improvement.

Yeah your video card is being bottle-necked by your CPU.

 

[Wanderer]

damn guys you dont need to be soo ruff on me, i know i fudged up... :.(
but i appreciate all the help non the less