Radeon 9500 PRO in short supply due to strong OEM orders and Other ATI news

[Adul]

Nvidia has to be feeling the heat now.


The heat is on...

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2002/12/13&pages=04&seq=14



Due to strong demand from major PC vendors like Dell Computer and Hewlett-Packard (HP), ATI Technologies recently reported a serious shortage of its Radeon 9500 PRO graphics chips. Given the massive orders from the brand-name companies, ATI?s own-brand card-manufacturing clients are experiencing difficulty acquiring the chips.

The Radeon 9500 PRO has been well-accepted by the high-end market due to its appealing price/performance ratio. Based on the company?s new-generation R300 core, the Radeon 9500 PRO is designed with the same eight-pipeline architecture as the Radeon 9700 PRO but cards sporting the chip are sold at much lower prices. According to an earlier ATI announcement, Radeon 9500 PRO cards retail for US$199 and Radeon 9700 PRO cards for US$399.

Although it plans to launch new R350 and RV350 chips in the first quarter of 2003, ATI said it would continue producing the Radeon 9500 PRO.

The RV350, a simplified version of the R350 chip, will be ATI?s first product manufactured on the 0.13-micron process, while the top-end R350 will continue adopting 0.15-micron processing.

Besides releasing a new product schedule, ATI has continued its aggressive marketing strategy to compete against archrival Nvidia. Following its System Integrator Partner Program (SIPP) and Asia Pac Partner Program (APPP) rebate-offering projects aimed at manufacturers in Europe and Asia, the Canadian chip designer lately announced a new Retailer Program in China, providing nearly 20% rebates on Radeon 9500 cards to local vendors. With the pricing, ATI hopes to boost its presence in China?s clone market up from the current over 10%.

Facing the price competition, Nvidia responded by lowering the prices of its NV18 and NV28 chips in China by more than 10% at the end of November, which it expects will open up the market segment because of ATI?s Radeon 9500 PRO shortage.

And in other news

ATI chooses UMC to manufacture RV280 chip

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article2.asp?datePublish=2002/12/13&pages=04&seq=28

 

[tbates757]

Even though I have a Ti4200, I get a certain pleasure from nVidia sweating Competition is good for us =D

 

[lorlabnew]

What would be a better choice:

MSI Ti4200-VTD8X (MS-8894) by MSI $199 or ATI Radeon 9500 Pro by ATI $219?

Both are retail 128MB 8x AGP, MSI also has video-in (what I kinda like) and bigger SW bundle (which is usually useless) I think .... from the Anandtech benchmarks seems like 9500Pro outperforms Ti4200 pretty much everywhere... is this particular, latest MSI any better then average Ti4200? How noisy are the 2 cards, same?


thx
dave

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

"What would be a better choice:

MSI Ti4200-VTD8X (MS-8894) by MSI $199 or ATI Radeon 9500 Pro by ATI $219? "

You can get the Radeon 9500 Pro for $198 at Newegg.com and it is a better card than a GeForce ti4600 according to several articles I've read (including the one on andantech you should check out). Do what I'm gonna do and buy a Radeon 9500 Pro, best value for a video card out there right now for sure.

 

[lorlabnew]

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
"What would be a better choice:

MSI Ti4200-VTD8X (MS-8894) by MSI $199 or ATI Radeon 9500 Pro by ATI $219? "

You can get the Radeon 9500 Pro for $198 at Newegg.com and it is a better card than a GeForce ti4600 according to several articles I've read (including the one on andantech you should check out). Do what I'm gonna do and buy a Radeon 9500 Pro, best value for a video card out there right now for sure.

I'm shopping in retail, and while I wanted originally 9700 Pro, I just can't adjust to pay over $400 (for a card thats been out for a while) when there will be surely a better, faster card out in the spring2003 (going again retail for some $400 in a month after release). So I will go now with slower (either 9500pro or mentioned Ti4200), and buy "the best' when it will be out.... now I think I'll grab r9500, everyone rates it better generally...

thx

 

[Ben88]

Get the 9500 pro for $20 bucks more. It is on par with the ti4600.

 

[CrazySaint]

Great news for ATI, and this part is especially interesting:

The RV350, a simplified version of the R350 chip, will be ATI?s first product manufactured on the 0.13-micron process, while the top-end R350 will continue adopting 0.15-micron processing.

:Q If that's true, then ATI will be right on NVIDIA's heels with a 0.13 part! And a value part at that!

 

[lorlabnew]

Just bought 9500 Pro at CompUSA for $219 (+$18 tax), my first 3DMark all on defalt is 11664 .....

With old Radeon7500 I could leave my DDR on CAS2, here I had to go to CAS2.5 (thats what my RAM is rated for), since the first run failed somewhere around test 9 or 10 ....

Overall, it's a nice card, definitely

 

[Bovinicus]

As far as I know, there are very few differences, if any, between ATi's cards and 3rd part manufacturers. I have heard the possibility of lower 2D quality, but I somehow doubt that is a real problem.

 

[Arhra]

I don't think ATI has anything to match the NV30 or NV36 (? The GPU that's intended to beat the R9500 Pro). In a couple of months, the high-end ball game will once again be nVidia's, with ATI probably winning the budget market. Looks a lot like AMD and Intel, eh?

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Arhra
I don't think ATI has anything to match the NV30 or NV36 (? The GPU that's intended to beat the R9500 Pro). In a couple of months, the high-end ball game will once again be nVidia's, with ATI probably winning the budget market. Looks a lot like AMD and Intel, eh?

Well, considering that the R350 and RV350 will come out shortly after NV30, and that by the time NV30 comes out, ATI will have lead all sectors for several months, and will be nearly one full product cycle ahead of NVIDIA, I don't think they've much to worry about.

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: Arhra
I don't think ATI has anything to match the NV30 or NV36 (? The GPU that's intended to beat the R9500 Pro). In a couple of months, the high-end ball game will once again be nVidia's, with ATI probably winning the budget market. Looks a lot like AMD and Intel, eh?

No it looks nothing like Intel vs AMD. Also you talk like this has happend before... ATI has never held the reigns like they are now, we are moving into something much different here.
AMD does not nor ever will have a chance in hell of throwing over Intel. ATI IS throwing over Nvidia as we speak...it has only just begun.

 

[PlatinumGold]

AMD does not nor ever will have a chance in hell of throwing over Intel. ATI IS throwing over Nvidia as we speak...it has only just begun

mb throwing them over is a bit extreme, this isn't like when nvidia took the lead from 3dfx. no way you could say nvidia is about to collapse the way that 3dfx did BUT it definitely means that ati and nvidia are neck and neck. no one knows right now who will come out on top in the long run and to be honest the market usually has room for 2 or 3 major competitors, it's better for all of us for BOTH companies to continue to do well.

otoh, i recently purchased an NForce2 board and i don't think ati has anything that quite competes with that.

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

AMD does not nor ever will have a chance in hell of throwing over Intel. ATI IS throwing over Nvidia as we speak...it has only just begun

mb throwing them over is a bit extreme, this isn't like when nvidia took the lead from 3dfx. no way you could say nvidia is about to collapse the way that 3dfx did BUT it definitely means that ati and nvidia are neck and neck. no one knows right now who will come out on top in the long run and to be honest the market usually has room for 2 or 3 major competitors, it's better for all of us for BOTH companies to continue to do well.

otoh, i recently purchased an NForce2 board and i don't think ati has anything that quite competes with that.

NOT YET , and prob not for a while. Nforce 2 is nice