Radeon 8500 vs. 9500 Non pro comparisons.

[Remedy]

Has anyone seen these 2 cards compared? I've looked all over and can't find a single review or overview of the 2 cards performing against each other. I can only mix and match reviews, but my conclusion becomes flawed. If someone with 9500 moved from the 8500, would you please stand up?

 

[Adul]

its faster, supports direct x 9, and can be softmodded to a 9700

 

[Chadder007]

Someone really needs to make a database with all the results and testbeds. Then make a web component graph that you can pull down to manipulate.

 

[Remedy]

Adul, i know what features it has already. I just want to see the 2 compared or if someone has migrated this way or not.

 

[vss1980]

Well, I dont know of any direct review/comparisons of the two, BUT digit-life have got both in their last 3Digest (a massive comparison of all the current graphics cards on the market with regards to how well they stand up in high/mid/low end tasks and cost-effectiveness).

If you can interpret the data they are giving you, it is a useful thing. You can find it here.

 

[Remedy]

I checked out digit-life since day 1. Still no direct comparison between the 2. Although they often have interesting 3D Digest every month.

 

[hdeck]

Tom's Hardware has compared all the video cards out (except the gf fx) is his video card round up. you should get a good comparison there.

 

[human2k]

Originally posted by: Adul
its faster, supports direct x 9, and can be softmodded to a 9700

Saphire 9500 NP 128MB bulk from newegg, 9700 NO artifacts at 320/290.

THe 9700 is in my xp 1.81GHZ rig and I have a 8500LE 128mb (300/300) in my 1.8A@2.43ghz rig. The athlon rig is so much faster, 10k vs. 12k 3dmarks. 2d is about the same, but with fsaa and AA thats where the 9700 takes off. On my intel righ at 1028x768 with max settings, quake 3 lags, in the athlon rig with the 9700 mod I can run any game at almost any resolution with max settings smooth as silk (1.81ghz vs. 2.43ghz).

Hope that clear things up for you.

btw. if anyone needs help doing the softmod just PM, i have a premodded driver where you can install easily.

 

[AnMig]

I have been retail 8500 64 mb past 1 year overclocked to 290/290 my highest 3D mark score was 8600.
This is on A Epox 8k5a2/1600xp overclocked to 1.75 (10x 175 fsb), maximum memory timming, wd 80gb 8mb HD.

Recently bought a newegg 9500 np same system not overclocked 3dmark score was 9600 not a dramatic jump.
sorry could not post all the details for the 8500 got too excited to soft mod the 9500. Here are my 9500 scores.

CAT 3/ Direct X 9

9500 Score/not overclocked

3DMark Score 9964
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 132.3 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 49.3 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 184.5 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 103.2 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 134.1 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 60.1 fps
Game 4 - Nature 60.2 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 935.7 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 1104.5 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 51.7 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 13.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping 188.5 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping 114.5 fps
Vertex Shader 152.7 fps
Pixel Shader 164.6 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader 96.0 fps
Point Sprites 13.3 MSprites/s


9700 not overclocked 275/275

RESULTS
3DMark Score 11517
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 142.0 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 49.4 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 231.5 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 120.9 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 137.8 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 60.5 fps
Game 4 - Nature 89.5 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 1547.9 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2173.9 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 53.0 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 12.9 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping 257.7 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping 182.9 fps
Vertex Shader 156.8 fps
Pixel Shader 189.7 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader 174.7 fps
Point Sprites 34.6 MSprites/s

9700 overclocked 320core/290 mem
RESULTS
3DMark Score 11984
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 145.6 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 48.6 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 234.4 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 124.5 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 138.5 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 60.3 fps
Game 4 - Nature 106.6 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 1713.9 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2517.8 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 59.4 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 15.0 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping 278.8 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping 229.7 fps
Vertex Shader 156.7 fps
Pixel Shader 214.9 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader 197.9 fps
Point Sprites 38.3 MSprites/s

 

[Remedy]

I didn't see the 9500NP compared in Thomas' round up. But Thanks for the post support guys.

 

[human2k]

sorry remedy, my PM limit was reached, but to answer your question. Its Gone great as you can see in my above post. I tried 330 core/ 290 memory a while ago and my scores went up about 100pts in 3dmark. I only get artifacts when I overclock the ram past 290, then those checkboards show up.