<< Even with a respect for price I'd still recommend a Ti500. The Radeon 8500 is a nice card but in most cases the Ti500 edges it in real world gaming benchmarks and IMO the image quality and drivers is better on the nVidia card. >>
Um, radeon 8500=BEST QUALITY
Nshidia has good drivers, Ati is getting better, so I would not worry about that.
8500 edges out ti500 also.
I have a radeon 8500. All I am going to say is like wow.
Plus, ATi has the best dvd playback out there.