Radeon 7900 Reviews

[Stuka87]

Will update this list as more come along.

ArsTechnica:
(Ryzen 5800X3D, Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, 64GB DDR4-3200, Windows ???)
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...0-gpus-are-great-4k-gaming-gpus-with-caveats/

Gamers Nexus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We71eXwKODw

Guru3D:
(Ryzen 5950X, ASUS X570 Crosshair VIII HERO, 32 GB (4x 8GB) DDR4 3600 MHz, Windows 10)
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-review,1.html

Hardware Canucks
(Ryzen 7700X, Asus X670E ROG Crosshair hero, 32GB DDR5-6000, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3XPNr506Dc

Hardware Unboxed:
(Ryzen 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570S Carbon Max WiFi, 32GB DDR4-3200, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UFiG7CwpHk

Igor's Lab:
(Ryzen 7950X, MSI MEG X670E Ace,32GB DDR5 6000)
https://www.igorslab.de/en/amd-rade...giant-step-ahead-and-a-smaller-step-sideways/

Jay's Two Cents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq6Yp2Zxnkk

KitGuruTech:
(Intel 12900K, MSI MAG Z690 Unified, 32GB DDR5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qThrADqleD0

Linus Tech Tips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJ-vo6Ri9c

Paul's Hardware:
(Ryzen 7950X, Asus X670E ROG Crosshair Hero, 32GB DDR5-6000, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10pefkW2qg

PC Mag:
(Intel 12900K, Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Hero, 32GB 5600MHz, Windows 11)
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx

Tech Power Up:
(Intel 13900K, ASUS Z790 Maximus Hero, 2x 16 GB DDR5-6000 MHz, Windows 10)
AMD: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx/
ASUS: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-tuf-oc/
XFX: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-merc-310-oc/

Tech Spot:
(Ryzen 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570S, 32GB of dual-rank, dual-channel DDR4-3200 CL14, Windows ???)
https://www.techspot.com/review/2588-amd-radeon-7900-xtx/

TechTesters:
(Intel 13900K, ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 HERO, 32GB DDR5-6000, Windows 11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uQh4GkPopQ

 

[moonbogg]

I expect there is more performance that is still untapped in some titles, that will come with driver updates.

The negative knee jerk reactions are almost always a bad look with AMD GPU launches. Fine wine is fine.

At these price points rather than hoping for fine wine, I'd just say "OK Fine" and throw another $600 at the rig and get a 4090. Easy choice. These AMD cards are both too expensive by about $200. It's OK though because AMD totally hates market share in the GPU space for some really odd reason. They aren't as good as Nvidia by a long shot. If they want to sell a lot, they need to offer one hell of a bargain and they just aren't.

 

[Shmee]

Seems the 7900XTX was about as I expected, overall it seemed a bit faster than the 4080, while being cheaper, and with more memory and now 12 pin. The 7900XT is a bit of a disappointment comparatively, but if it is possible to unlock an MCD on some cards, that would be really interesting.

I think many people will be waiting for partner cards, like from Sapphire. I am surprised there is so little information on them.

 

[n0x1ous]

What jumped out most to me is how good the 6950xt held up. Many games had a much bigger gap between 6950xt and 6900xt then you would expect for merely clock bumps on core and vram. 6950xt is a solid buy at its current price in this market.

 

[Stuka87]

Big OOOOOOOOOfffffffff on those review numbers.

If it takes AMD 530mm2 of silicon to match NV's 376mm2 of silicon in raster and outright lose in RT then we've basically gone back to the Vega gen (which is, needless to say, bad). Hopefully something is just broken with the N31 GCD and this isn't an indictment of he chiplet strategy on gaming GPUs, we'll see.

4090 is like the 1080Ti, floating above the rif-raff down below.

4080/7900XTX are fighting neck and neck for 30% faster than the prior gen, and then you don't even really get any substantial $$$/performance improvement gen on gen from there.

I figured a good amount of the "counter hype" we'd been seeing over the last few days was AMD trying to reign in the hypetrain it had created, but I didn't know it was going to go this poorly.

Its worth noting that N31 is 306 mm² .

I assume you were adding in the memory dies, which is a bit disingenuous. That would be similar to including HBM because its a memory die on the same sub straight as the GPU.

 

[PJVol]

Kitguru review is excellent as usual. His game suite had a gen on gen uplift of 39%. Outside of a couple of games I have seen tested, AMD did not deliver the claimed performance uplift. Dom used a 12900K for testing. He also experienced coil whine, same as GN. Looks like a partner card will be the way to go so far.

He added this at the end:

Launch Day Update: AMD has since gotten in touch and given us the following recommended settings for tweaking the XTX :

Undervolt -125mV, +100MHz memclk and +15% powerlimit

It's important to note that we did not try undervolting during our overclocking process, purely due to time constraints, but that could well help the thermals we observed above, while also providing more performance. We will be sure to test this in more detail when we assess partner cards.

 

[moonbogg]

So far it seems this generation will be defined by the 4090 at the top and nothing below it makes any sense until you get to around half it's price, so $7-800 area. Nothing above $800 would get me to bite unless it's almost as fast as the 4090, which it won't be. The 4080 and both 7900 cards are duds.

 

[n0x1ous]

Its worth noting that N31 is 306 mm² .

I assume you were adding in the memory dies, which is a bit disingenuous. That would be similar to including HBM because its a memory die on the same sub straight as the GPU.

the memory chips themselves were not included in his 500mm+ rating but the MCD's themselves were. the MCD contain the cache and memory controller, and IO that is part of the main monolithic nvidia die. His comparison was valid. Or should we count how much die space nvidia's Ada cache, memory controllers and IO take from the AD10x dies and subtract that to compare to AMDs 306mm GCD?

 

[tajoh111]

Then why don't the people that are complaining up and down about AMD's presentation not doing the same with nVidia? Or Intel? This literally happens every time a new CPU/GPU comes out. The manufacturer chooses the best benchmarks to display.

Nvidia kind of undersold their raster performance for ADA. 15% faster and 50% faster for the RTX 4080 and 4090 are generally on the worse side if we compare actual reviews for raster vs the 3090 ti. We have exaggerated numbers for those 4x claims, but Nvidia can get there as shown with the new Portal RTX.

From AMD numbers, you would be expecting 60% faster than a rx 6950xt. In actuality your getting more along the lines of 35-40% in raster. That's a huge miss. Look at the rumors thread after the AMD reveal in November and that was the general consensus.

AMD definitely burnt some goodwill with this launch. Also as a result of the performance, much of the negatively applied to the RTX 4080 launch applies here.

 

[DiogoDX]

New Vega is here. Raja would e proud.

 

[Mopetar]

New Vega is here. Raja would e proud.

This isn't even close to Vega where AMD was really only able to compete with the 1070/Ti.

Hopefully they get the drivers and hardware bugs ironed out for Navi 32, or it will be just about as ugly.

 

[igor_kavinski]

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX & RX 7900 XT im Test: Taktraten, Benchmarks (WQHD, UHD & 5K) mit und ohne RT

Radeon RX 7900 XTX & XT im Test: Taktraten, Benchmarks (WQHD, UHD & 5K) mit und ohne RT / Die durchschnittlichen Taktraten unter Last

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7900XTX is beating the 4080 FE in 10 out of 17 games at 5,120 × 2,880. I can see why AMD was promoting the fake 8K Samsung monitor in its presentation so much. At these high resolutions, the 4080 FE's 16GB VRAM starts to become problematic.

 

[insertcarehere]

This isn't even close to Vega where AMD was really only able to compete with the 1070/Ti.

Hopefully they get the drivers and hardware bugs ironed out for Navi 32, or it will be just about as ugly.

Not apples-to-apples, but 1070ti is 2432 Cuda cores out of a possible 2560 within full GP104 (there was no GP103).

4080 has 9728 Cuda cores out of a possible 10240 within full AD103.

The 4080, from a perspective of chip binning is close to a "1070ti" for Ada, from that perspective it's an indictment that fully enabled Navi 31 can't definitively beat this..

 

[biostud]

One could argue the real competitor is the 4070ti, if it is still launched at $899. But maybe being renamed, also made it $100 cheaper.

 

[Ranulf]

I expect there is more performance that is still untapped in some titles, that will come with driver updates.

The negative knee jerk reactions are almost always a bad look with AMD GPU launches. Fine wine is fine.

Indeed. That is the story we've heard a lot the past 8-10 years or so. Unfortunately, we are now in the era of $1k 2nd best gpu's and $1.5k+ best gpu prices. I'll let those fine wine efforts trickle down to reality for a few years.

Then only to find out that drivers no longer get optimized so much for older cards. On products that depreciate in value 50% or more in 1-2 years, even without all the crazy crypto inflation on prices.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Then only to find out that drivers no longer get optimized so much for older cards.

That's an Nvidia thing. AMD is the company that completely reworked the drivers for older APIs last year, netting some nice performance gains. Seeing how well Polaris, Vega, and RDNA are aging, I don't think any of us with AMD GPUs are particularly concerned about that issue.

 

[burninatortech4]

Rasterization and RT are mostly meh and I guess where I expected them to land. We'll see where driver optimizations land these cards in 6 months.

On the other hand, the idle power and multimonitor power draw is a joke. Someone in AMD obviously said "meh, we'll fix that later". Unacceptable for a $1000 card in 2023.

 

[MrTeal]

The real benefit of fine wine is that you can go out now and buy a 16GB 6800XT that gives you 2/3rds of the performance of a $1200 4080 for $500 new or even less used.

 

[Ranulf]

That's an Nvidia thing. AMD is the company that completely reworked the drivers for older APIs last year, netting some nice performance gains. Seeing how well Polaris, Vega, and RDNA are aging, I don't think any of us with AMD GPUs are particularly concerned about that issue.

Fair point. Perhaps I'm still salty over the sudden end to support for anything older than Polaris.


Edit: Its looking like the best deals this year will be the 6700xt or 6800xt.

 

[n0x1ous]

Tom's Hardware review has a mention on page 1 of Senior AMD executives telling them that AD102 was "bigger than expected" and basically out of reach

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-and-xt-review-shooting-for-the-top

 

[jpiniero]

Tom's Hardware review has a mention on page 1 of Senior AMD executives telling them that AD102 was "bigger than expected" and basically out of reach

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-and-xt-review-shooting-for-the-top

Bull sheet. While it was safe to assume that nVidia would slash the relative die sizes for the smaller parts, they weren't going to do that for AD102.

 

[Stuka87]

Bull sheet. While it was safe to assume that nVidia would slash the relative die sizes for the smaller parts, they weren't going to do that for AD102.

Except they did. The overall die size is smaller. But still larger than expected.

GA102: 628.4 mm2
AD102: 608.5 mm2

 

[jpiniero]

Except they did. The overall die size is smaller. But still larger than expected.

GA102: 628.4 mm2
AD102: 608.5 mm2

The % smaller is nowhere near the others though.

 

[blckgrffn]

So I guess I am not as salty as some others here, maybe because after their presentation I was expecting just over 4080 Raster and 3090 levels of RTX performance at $1k and didn't get too invested in the graphs and extrapolating things. That seemed reasonable to me then and now it seems to be what was delivered.

Firstly, I am referencing the review @ Toms.

I think the 7900XT should be at most $800. It gaps the 3090ti at 1440p raster and if we all remember, that card was pretty beastly. But $900 is waaaay to close to $1K. If the plan was to leave the 6950XT, a card that I am not that big a fan of, at $800 just cuz you can that sucks.

Also, the 6950XT is tuned way outside of efficiency zones and gobbles up power. I wish the graphs had the much saner (and cheaper) 6900XT.

I "wish" the current breakdown was like this, I expect big jumps in price at the top and a denser cluster at the bottom:

$1000 - 7900XTX
$800 - 7900XT
$600 - 6900XT
$450 - 6800XT
$375 - 6800
$300 - 6700XT
$250 - 6600XT
$200 - 6600

I think below that is getting largely irrelevant at retail or RDNA2 new old stock once the RDNA3 full stack is up and running or an inevitable 1650 Super Ti Plus. Find a used card. (Insert Steam Survey 1650 jab here - lots and lots of gaming laptops got that and we had two years of Mining+Covid shenanigans. Mining cards are going to be (someday) freely available and make life hard on the sub $200 new cards in terms of value. My opinion.)

And yeah, it seems soft. I regretted getting an early 5700XT and it looks like while RDNA2 was a solid launch there is a pioneering vibe with these cards that isn't what I would want in a premium card. At $400 and midrange it was more digestible.

At $900 I really don't understand what the 7900XT is for except for when the 7900XTX sells out there is something left on the shelf. I think Tom's covered this angle pretty well too, the bean counters are well aware that these might sell out regardless of the price.

Finally, I am not seeing any reason to buy a GPU for this full generation. My 6800 is safe.

Or is the issue that that monolithic die 7800XT or whatever is going to be a 300W card that tickles the heels of the 7900XTX so they want lots of pricing headroom for it? I mean, I prefer my 6800 to the 6700XT but they way they built that out made the 6800 really feel like the odd man out because it didn't offer that much more raw performance for the dollar. I like the thermals and (lack of) fan noise that the "wider and slower" 6800 employs but if you are focused on $/fps that's really secondary.

 

[biostud]

The $899 7900XT would have been a direct competitor to the 4080 12Gb.

But they can probably not sell them much cheaper and be profitable. I suspect the XTX will outsell the XT by a large ma9.

 

[biostud]

Why is the 7900XTX beating the 4090 in COD:MWII?