Racists

[Murphy Durphy]

 

[Forsythe]

Kill all humans?

The thing is, when people are more diverse, they are more mixed, so noone will have the chance to completely lock themselves away from black or asian people.

 

[piasabird]

I can imagine some Indians sitting around a campfire. The chief says "We should respect the white man and embrace diversity so we can have a better life"!

2 years later they were all wiped out by their plans for diversity!

Ha Ha.

What is this diversity you are talking about? You cant dumb down people and lower your standards for this utopian concept of Diversity! The idea is to raise people up to a higher level not lower ourselves down in a pit of depravity just because some group doesnt see things the same way.

Sink or Swim.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Murphy Durphy
How can diversity eliminate intolerance, when the more diversity you have, the more people try to stick together in their own groups. This of course would eventually only harbor more intolerance for others.

But a lack of diversity makes it easier for people to create stereotypes that are almost most certainly wrong.

What is the right answer here?

I think the answer is to let people do what they want. If they want to seperate, fine. If they want to mingle, fine. Forcing people together who don't want to be together only creates strife.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
Kill all humans?

The thing is, when people are more diverse, they are more mixed, so noone will have the chance to completely lock themselves away from black or asian people.

in my experience it's more like blacks or asians (or whatever minority) lock themselves away from everybody else much more often. cliques-galore.

 

[Deudalus]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
Kill all humans?

The thing is, when people are more diverse, they are more mixed, so noone will have the chance to completely lock themselves away from black or asian people.

Couldn't be much more untrue.

Spend some time living on a college campus with a good blend of ethnicities.

At the college I went to, just outside New Orleans which is 70% black or so, the ratio of blacks and whites living on camppus was about the same. 70% black and 30% white.

At the food court, student union, or virtually anywhere else you would go they were very well segregated into different ethnic groups.

The only ones that strayed from this generally were atheletes and members of a frat or sorority that wasn't black/white only.

 

[sandorski]

It takes time. Diversity does breed Intolerance at first, but in time and as the diverse Cultures, Races, Religions, etc mix together Intolerance declines. This is especially true where children are involved, they tend to adjust to differences and overlook those differences, especially if their parents encourage them to do so.

 

[magomago]

It really depends on the person's mindset, and what they were exposed to growing up. I grew up seeing all sorts of different people from a very young age so when I went to a place (or school) that I was unfamiliar with I didn't rush to look for people of a certain ethnicity.

I think it is really people's desire for what they know. There was an Chinese guy in my dorm who was next to my room. He moved here from Taiwan when he was like in 6th grade and all the way through highshool he just talked and spoke and interacted with Chinese people. HE knew english, and his writing was very good but speech a little choppy. When I wanted to hang out with him at first he was weird about it and even asked, "why in the world do you want to hang out with Chinese people". Took a little breaking him in but now he is much more cool with it...though thinking about it all his other friends are Chinese....

There are a lot of reasons to hang out with only those of your race of ethnicity (This came up in a discussion with a friend who was looking to fill their suummer apartment). If people people are of the same race it lends to sharing the same language, possibly food (since different regions usually have different styles), and interests...all these lend to help creating linkages by which people can interact in a more simple manner. It also lends to the fact that everything they will see and experience has been something they have seen before...basically I think a lot of it boils down to a desire for familiarity and fear of the unknown.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: piasabird
I can imagine some Indians sitting around a campfire. The chief says "We should respect the white man and embrace diversity so we can have a better life"!

2 years later they were all wiped out by their plans for diversity!

Ha Ha.

What is this diversity you are talking about? You cant dumb down people and lower your standards for this utopian concept of Diversity! The idea is to raise people up to a higher level not lower ourselves down in a pit of depravity just because some group doesnt see things the same way.

Sink or Swim.

Got zenophobia? Should we scalp the minorities before they take our land? Give me a break, there is a difference between encouraging diversity and failing to realize actual threats in the form of numerous people with guns killing your people.

 

[Whaspe]

Intolerance I think stems from a lack of self-esteem. We feel inadequate about ourselves and therefore turn attention onto someone else to avoid dealing with our own insecurities. There is a big distinction that needs to be realized however. We don't show tolerance for murderers or thiefs or cheaters and swindlers. But this intolerance should never be directed at the person but rather at the crime.

I grew up in a very ethnically diverse neighborhood. There was my family of Dutch decent, my best friends family from India. The couple across from us from the Phillipines. Another friend of mine whose parents came from Finland. I'll tell you the neighborhood potlucks were exceptional. As children we all got along just fine, I remember going to school and for the first time realizing people had problems with others based on skin color or the way someone's lunch smelled. From my personal experience I found diversity to be an asset not a hindrance.

 

[Rainsford]

As to the actual topic...while I think diversity might create some issues at the beginning, history suggests that it eventually creates tolerance. People always like to point out the negative examples, but for the most part they are the exception, not the rule. Think about how well various groups work together compared to a century ago. Things aren't perfect yet, but they are a hell of a lot better.

 

[Murphy Durphy]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
As to the actual topic...while I think diversity might create some issues at the beginning, history suggests that it eventually creates tolerance. People always like to point out the negative examples, but for the most part they are the exception, not the rule. Think about how well various groups work together compared to a century ago. Things aren't perfect yet, but they are a hell of a lot better.

That's good, but intolerance has to do with the unwillingness to endure, especially in a religious sense. How are things any better now? The holocaust, the racial riots, and now this "holy war". It seems like there is always one raging issue that we eventually get over, only to start another. I'm not sure if that's a hell of a lot better or not.

 

[Moonbeam]

I hate almost all males but love women of all races.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I hate almost all males but love women of all races.

LOL, I'm ALL for diversity.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Murphy Durphy

Originally posted by: Rainsford
As to the actual topic...while I think diversity might create some issues at the beginning, history suggests that it eventually creates tolerance. People always like to point out the negative examples, but for the most part they are the exception, not the rule. Think about how well various groups work together compared to a century ago. Things aren't perfect yet, but they are a hell of a lot better.

That's good, but intolerance has to do with the unwillingness to endure, especially in a religious sense. How are things any better now? The holocaust, the racial riots, and now this "holy war". It seems like there is always one raging issue that we eventually get over, only to start another. I'm not sure if that's a hell of a lot better or not.

There's always something. That's just part of the evolution of Civilization, it always has its' Pros/Cons and future generations will always look back and wonder "WTF were they thinking", but should we give up just because things aren't Perfect? I say No.

 

[yllus]

The general idea is the more exposure you give one cross-section of humanity to another, the quicker they'll realize that they're regular people just like them. Until then, people will trend towards working off of stereotypes and (usually) irrational dislike.

Of course, making that realization relies on a number of common interests: Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. America has to date done a great jorb at making its citizens Americans first, and everything else second. Those core common beliefs bind the nation and really help it unite to keep the country up top as a world leading nation. In comparison, I don't feel that Canada, the U.K., France, Germany et al have done nearly as good a job in providing commonality while welcoming diversity.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Murphy Durphy

Originally posted by: Rainsford
As to the actual topic...while I think diversity might create some issues at the beginning, history suggests that it eventually creates tolerance. People always like to point out the negative examples, but for the most part they are the exception, not the rule. Think about how well various groups work together compared to a century ago. Things aren't perfect yet, but they are a hell of a lot better.

That's good, but intolerance has to do with the unwillingness to endure, especially in a religious sense. How are things any better now? The holocaust, the racial riots, and now this "holy war". It seems like there is always one raging issue that we eventually get over, only to start another. I'm not sure if that's a hell of a lot better or not.

Things are certainly better. While the intellectually shallow are quick to call our current conflict a "holy war", it's pretty obvious that most Christians are not at war with most Muslims. This was not the case with true holy wars in the past. And this is only one way things really are better, the holocaust, race riots, etc, are certainly not good things, but they were just business as usual hundreds of years ago. Relations between blacks and whites aren't perfect yet, but I'd still take our current situation over the days when black people were slaves.

 

[Whaspe]

Originally posted by: yllus
The general idea is the more exposure you give one cross-section of humanity to another, the quicker they'll realize that they're regular people just like them. Until then, people will trend towards working off of stereotypes and (usually) irrational dislike.

Of course, making that realization relies on a number of common interests: Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. America has to date done a great jorb at making its citizens Americans first, and everything else second. Those core common beliefs bind the nation and really help it unite to keep the country up top as a world leading nation. In comparison, I don't feel that Canada, the U.K., France, Germany et al have done nearly as good a job in providing commonality while welcoming diversity.

My sarcasm metre must be broken.