R9 300 cards listed in new driver - R9 370 is a rebrand

[Cloudfire777]

That info is wrong. Its just user submitted as you can see as well. Best guesses to find unknown devices.

The driver is very clear, its a R505 rebrand:

"%AMD6658.1%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6658&SUBSYS_293C1462
"%AMD6658.2%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6658
"%AMD665C.1%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665C&SUBSYS_29321462
"%AMD665C.2%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665C&SUBSYS_29341462
"%AMD665C.3%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665C&SUBSYS_293B1462
"%AMD665C.4%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665C&SUBSYS_8770148C
"%AMD665C.5%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665C&SUBSYS_9260148C
"%AMD665C.6%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665C&SUBSYS_9260174B
"%AMD665C.7%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665C
"%AMD665D.1%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665D
"%AMD665F.1%" = ati2mtag_R505, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_665F&SUBSYS_0B041028&REV_81

AMD6658.1 = "AMD Radeon R9 260"
AMD6658.2 = "AMD Radeon R7 200 Series"
AMD665C.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 8770"
AMD665C.2 = "AMD Radeon R9 260"
AMD665C.3 = "AMD Radeon R9 260"
AMD665C.4 = "AMD Radeon HD 8770"
AMD665C.5 = "AMD Radeon R9 260"
AMD665C.6 = "AMD Radeon R9 260"
AMD665C.7 = "AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series"
AMD665D.1 = "AMD Radeon R7 200 Series"
AMD665F.1 = "AMD Radeon R9 360"

Its TC4Fantasy that added the GPU. And updated it yesterday. Hardly any random user.
R505 is Bonaire like you say though so we shall see.

If it is a rebrand, it could be both R7 260 or 260X.
Pretty pathetic if AMD push out so many rebrands. Many were hoping for new architecture across many cards.

Makes me wonder what R9 380X and 390X really is since they use many 300 names for rebrands.

 

[wand3r3r]

While I hate re-brands it doesn't mean that they won't be competitive. It will be unfortunate if true, but I would guess that they'll still be better values than the NV alternative. Maxwell cards like the 960 don't set the bar too high, actually it sets the bar pretty low.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Well we still have to see what 380 and 390 ends up as. 390 should be Fiji whatever it is. 380 could be a Tonga rebrand.

 

[Gikaseixas]

looks like all the focus is being allocated to the top dog, we could even see 290 series being rebranded as the new 380 series.

 

[Cloudfire777]

Its disastrous, thats what it is. It means the rumors about new architecture and 300 cards being all new was bs.

Nvidia had the first Maxwell cards out in early 2014 ffs. R9 360 and 370 being rebrands means AMD got nothing to counter these midrange Maxwell cards.
The high end (390/390X) cant carry their whole GPU department right?

Well we still have to see what 380 and 390 ends up as. 390 should be Fiji whatever it is. 380 could be a Tonga rebrand.

Some rumors say 380X is a 290X rebrand.
Worst about it is that it fits 390X.

380X: 2816 shaders
390: 3600 shaders
390X: 4100 shaders

 

[ShintaiDK]

I dont think 290/290X will be rebranded as 380/380X. Specially not with the rebrands we have seen so far. Fielding a 512bit bus and a huge hot chip for that price range is not a good idea. Tonga is really the best candidate, also looking with the forward perspective. There should be a 2048SP Tonga as well we havent seen on the desktop.

 

[Cloudfire777]

loooooool.

ALL ABOARD THE REBRAND TRAIN

AMD Radeon (TM) R9 M375X cape verde xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R9 M375 cape verde xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 M370 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R9 M360 cape verde xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 M360 topaz xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 M350 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 M340 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 M340 topaz xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R5 M335 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R5 M330 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R5 M320 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R5 M320 oland pro
AMD Radeon (TM) R5 M315 topaz ？
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 350 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R5 340 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R5 340 oland xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 300 curacao xt
AMD Radeon (TM) R7 300 curacao pro

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3652453674?pid=65955145081&cid=0#65955145081

 

[wand3r3r]

What if they were 20nm?

 

[ShintaiDK]

What if they were 20nm?

Then they wouldnt be the same names. So its not.

 

[Paul98]

All those being rebrands is sad if it's true.

But does this mean that the cards not on here aren't rebrands? If so it would make sense since.

 

[ShintaiDK]

All those being rebrands is sad if it's true.

But does this mean that the cards not on here aren't rebrands? If so it would make sense since.

Anything is possible. But it doesnt automatically mean there wont be more rebrands. We just have to see how they turn out. Maybe we can see it in the next 15.4 driver. The 380 not being a rebrand is the least likely outcome with Tonga, Tahiti and Hawaii as more likely candidates than a new chip. 390 however is the opposite and should be something new unless 4096SP and HBM is nothing but hot air.

 

[stuff_me_good]

Seems like this thread has become nvidian fans LOLLING contest.

I'm not buying before I see the reviews.

 

[Erenhardt]

Marking this thread to re-visit after launch.

But if Shin said it is all re-brands, we know how that will end - just like the consoles.

 

[schmuckley]

This throws out every positive rumor about the 300 series and basically confirms that it'll be almost entirely rebrands, and makes it extremely likely that Fiji will compete more with GM204 than GM200... *sigh* Both AMD and Nvidia have failed me this year, so I guess I'm stuck with my 7950 for another year. I mean, I could buy a 290, but I don't know...

I was reading some thread yesterday where the 2** series have some extra hardware for something or another.
It was an AMD driver thread..

 

[Osjur]

I will remind everyone that AMD have stated that every new GPU going from 2015 onwards will have FreeSync.

Freesync cannot work with Tahiti and Pitcairn, i dont believe they will rebrand 270 to 370 without Freesync in 2015.

They can, you don't need to update the GPU Core to get freesync working, only Display Controllers.

That is also the reason why they have hard time bringing hardware based VSR to 280X GPU's because some of those gpu's are just rebranded 7970 and others have slightly updated display controllers. It was up to AIB's to decide whether to rebrand (bios mod) or update some components on the PCB.

It is starting to be hilarious when we have 285 with the most advanced display controller which can do PLP and VSR, 290 series with slightly inferior dc, so only VSR, 280 series with new (VSR capable) and old (no VSR) controllers and old 7xxx series still on the market.

 

[DownTheSky]

This thread is where nvidia comes after having a bad day. Always gets its spirits up.

 

[Subyman]

wccftech reported this about a month ago:

http://wccftech.com/amds-fiji-gpu-c...ards-feature-current-gcn-cores/#ixzz3SE8hPAZy

AMD is soon going to release their high-performance Radeon 300 series lineup featuring the Fiji GPU powered graphics cards. While it was known that Fiji would be the flagship chip of the lineup, it is now being reported by Sweclockers that Fiji would also be the only new chip in the Radeon 300 series family while the rest of the cards will feature the current GCN cores based on the GCN 1.1 and GCN 1.2 architecture.

Seems like we are getting more confirmation of it now

 

[krumme]

Gpu takes a lot of wafer capacity. Mubadala and the wsa will be a major force here; moving capacity to gf is highest priority.

Imo we will therefore see the entire line moved to 28/20nm whatever they call it. Perhaps not from day one but before 14nm. Low end gpu on 14 makes no sense as transistor cost is higher for 14nm. Amd low end gpu line is fine for old gf tech.

Now a new line on gf 28nm will look very fine now. As its new designs and tuned process. But what happens the day when 14nm is to be introduced and gf is perhaps years late.

 

[Cloudfire777]

Wafer capacity? 28nm have been produced at TSMC since 2011. The process is at its best with yields in the 90s for sure.
The companies that made their SOCs in 28nm LP from TSMC have moved on to 20nm at TSMC or 14nm from GloFo/Samsung a long time ago, freeing capacity for the remaining companies that manufacture their products at TSMC. Meaning wafer availability should be of no concern to AMD.

This got to be because of lack of R&D money and engineers. Since 390/390X is new, they got atleast a foundation for moving down to smaller dies and making midrange GPUs. But since pretty much everything is rebrands, you have to sort of wonder if money is the issue here.

 

[DiogoDX]

370 and up don't makes sense to rebrand.

No freesync
No VSR 4K
No eyefinity PLP
No color compression
No improved geometry

Bonaire and Tonga maybe the ones that are rebranding because they suport freesyn and tonga all the newest features.

 

[Head1985]

Edit: Apparently April launch, pretty soon we can put the rumors to rest. If its a rebrand, AMD will make themselves irrelevant for GPUs like their CPUs have been for years.

I agree.If its rebrand then good bye AMD.

 

[Enigmoid]

Imo we will therefore see the entire line moved to 28/20nm whatever they call it. Perhaps not from day one but before 14nm. Low end gpu on 14 makes no sense as transistor cost is higher for 14nm. Amd low end gpu line is fine for old gf tech.

Now a new line on gf 28nm will look very fine now. As its new designs and tuned process. But what happens the day when 14nm is to be introduced and gf is perhaps years late.

Nvidia will for sure though have 14nm low end out on day 1 if historical trends hold true (640m launch , GM107 and GM208 immediately available in laptops). Without a 14nm competitor, AMD's 28nm offerings will be worthless

 

[redzo]

370 and up don't makes sense to rebrand.

No freesync
No VSR 4K
No eyefinity PLP
No color compression
No improved geometry

Bonaire and Tonga maybe the ones that are rebranding because they suport freesyn and tonga all the newest features.

They will rebrand everything below a 390 non x if they have to. 390 may be a scavenged full 390x part and that's it. No other new gpus besides 390 and 390x. Everything below a 390 could be rebrands. It's sad, but I think it is highly probable. Aren't they still at 28nm? Since there are no manufacturing improvements, rebranding gets very tempting. Nvidia could pull something like this off and get away with it, but I don't think that AMD can do it. This decision probably belongs to some AMD executives that went full retard.

 

[DownTheSky]

I agree.If its rebrand then good bye AMD.

Agreed. It's a suicidal decision considering Nvidia's new full line-up.

 

[crisium]

No, I actually appreciate you sharing as it certainly makes it much more likely. But I cannot take this as 100% confirmation. I refuse to believe they won't at least use Tonga tech in 370+.