r7 265 or 750ti before its too late

[psygnosis]

hi guys...
in my configuration actually i have an:
i3
enermax psu 450W
1 ssd
1 hdd
a 7750 1gb
asus dgx audio card

now after a long search i bought a r7 265 but...

1. is this card better than a 750ti in a time between today and 3 years?
2. does the 265 fit my case? a midi-tower that measure 44cm? 17.32 inches?
3. will my psu handle the 265?
4. isnt picairn old now? even a 260x use a newer bonaire chip...

I have to choose quickly cause I'm already bought the 265 but I can refund...
something tells me that I did a wrong choice cause the 750ti is a new hardware while the 265 is just a rebrand without trueaudio too (wherever it will be used)...

ty very much

 

[BSim500]

265 is slightly faster than 750Ti. 750Ti uses 2/3rds of the power though, needs no power cable, has Shadowplay, etc, if that's important. If you've already got the 265, you might as well keep it. I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of TrueAudio.

Edit: Just to better answer your questions, they should both fit in your case. Usually depends on the depth between rear of case and drive cage (which you may be able to remove if it doesn't). Both should work on your PSU. And yes, 265 is just a rebrand of the older 7850. If you're worried about space inside your case, best way is to pop it open and measure how much room you've got. If it's not a lot, there are some compact single-fan Mini-ITX length 750Ti's (eg, EVGA SC) only 17cm in length. The lack of a power connector on most 750Ti's effectively makes them 2-3cms shorter as well if the 6-pin power sockets on the 265's are rear mounted.

 

[psygnosis]

ty for your answer...actually my 7750 with a single fan fits perfect in my case with the HDD on the same line...the space left its just for the sata and power cable...
that's why i'm worried.
the space between the rear and the drives cage (unremovable) is about 23cm and a 265 its 22cm long

btw maybe for the long time a 265 could be older faster?

 

[Techhog]

btw maybe for the long time a 265 could be older faster?

It's old, but that doesn't change the fact that it's faster than the 750 Ti. It's not like GPUs magically slow down later in life or anything.

 

[Shehriazad]

Why is shadow play an argument? AMD has game DVR. So please don't try to give a card a point as if the other one doesnt have it.

Also I have owned 2 750 ti cards and have to say...for gaming they're a pain. Even in games where they go above monitor refresh rate I had constant tearing. This was true on a friends Intel based system as well. Maybe the measly ROP count is at fault or the low TMU amount.... But if you dislike vsync...stay away from the 750.

That said...if you want a super low power draw or even a passively cooled card, 750 to is for you.

 

[BSim500]

Why is shadow play an argument? AMD has game DVR. So please don't try to give a card a point as if the other one doesnt have it.

Things may have changed but last time I tried that on a low end card (7790) it really didn't work at all (on the software side). Simply my personal experience having owned both 7790 & 750Ti in the same HTPC. If if works reliably now, then great.

Also I have owned 2 750 ti cards and have to say...for gaming they're a pain. Even in games where they go above monitor refresh rate I had constant tearing.

I've had highly noticeable tearing on pretty much every dGPU I've ever owned over the past 20 years without VSync. It's not exactly limited to one card or brand.

 

[Shehriazad]

Things may have changed but last time I tried that on a low end card (7790) it really didn't work at all (on the software side). Simply my personal experience having owned both 7790 & 750Ti in the same HTPC. If if works reliably now, then great.

Well, I only got to try it with a Kaveri 7850K back when I had one. It worked decently. I had an fps loss of somewhere between 5-10% depending on title...so that was really not bad considering I used it with an iGPU...and a whole lot better than fraps that easily takes away a third to half of your frames on something as "weak" as a Kaveri.


Either way...I'm just saying...AMD DOES have an alternative...how well it works with a 265..I can't tell. But Nvidias silly background client that contains shadowplay also comes with its' own diseases and problems...I still remember that very recently auto update via that tool made that tool and GPU drivers constantly crash with a kernel error...annoying stuff.
Not all is greener on the other side .


Either way..let's keep it simple:

265 -> More gaming performance, more power draw, a little warmer, but not much so.

750 Ti -> A little less gaming performance, way less power draw, can effectively be cooled with a passive heatsink

As for price...that is different for every country. Over here the 265 is actually a little cheaper....might be different in your country. (750 Ti does have 1-2 super cheap models...but you get what you pay for in terms of cooling/noise level, so I personally don't consider them valid options)

But both draw power at such a low level that it would probably not really matter. So in the end it really comes down to personal preference.

 

[blastingcap]

now after a long search i bought a r7 265 but...

1. is this card better than a 750ti in a time between today and 3 years?
2. does the 265 fit my case? a midi-tower that measure 44cm? 17.32 inches?
3. will my psu handle the 265?
4. isnt picairn old now? even a 260x use a newer bonaire chip...

Short answer:

Keep your 265 since you already bought it. Spare yourself the headache of returning and re-buying.

Longer answer:

1. The performance difference between a 265 and GTX 750 Ti will be negligible in 3 years... it's like the difference between 20fps and 22fps: who cares, since both are under 30fps? At least the GTX 750 Ti can be repurposed more easily as an HTPC card due to is quiet, low-wattage operation. Or re-used as a PhysX card. 265 will be dead weight. If you want a card today that might still be good 3 years from now, you would have to step up to at least a R9 290 4GB.

2. I can't imagine any 265 being too long for that.

3. Almost certainly yes unless you are severely overvolting/overclocking both the CPU and GPU.

4. Unless you need the features of a newer chip, it doesn't matter.

Long answer:

I had the same dilemma as OP (I also considered the 260X).

The performance difference of the 265 over the GTX 750 Ti depends on the game:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/07/14/asus_r7_265_dc2_gtx_750_ti_oc_1080p_review/

The GTX 750 Ti's claim to fame is efficiency. The GTX 750 Ti barely draws more power when max overclocked, ~10 watts more at the wall. The 265 eats another 23 watts when max overclocked, and it was already using +12W to begin with at least for the ASUS DirectCUII versions of the cards: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/07/14/asus_r7_265_dc2_gtx_750_ti_oc_1080p_review/10

Re: the wattage charts below: whatever the wattage difference, multiply it by 1.25 to get 'at the wall' wattage and compare those numbers instead when calculating how much extra wattage you're using for a 265 vs a GTX 750 Ti. Is the power savings worth the performance and price difference? I don't know. You be the judge of your own situation. For me though, the answer was no, since I spend significant time outside of single-monitor idling, so I got the GTX 750 Ti instead of the 265. For me, the GTX 750 Ti would pay for itself over time in lower direct power bills, and produce less heat which would help during the summertime.

However, that's my situation; it's not yours. If you have just a single monitor then the idle power difference isn't as big.. you still eat more wattage during blu-ray/youtube/flash/etc. and gaming though.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/23.html

 

[alexruiz]

Easy choice, the R7 265, it is already faster by a decent amount.
As time goes on, the difference in performance will widen, it has stronger guts.
Your PSU will laugh at the R7 265, it will handle it no problem.
The true rival of the 750Ti is the R7 260x, even if nvidia marketing or the fanboys tell you otherwise.

 

[shady28]

hi guys...
in my configuration actually i have an:
i3
enermax psu 450W
1 ssd
1 hdd
a 7750 1gb
asus dgx audio card

now after a long search i bought a r7 265 but...

1. is this card better than a 750ti in a time between today and 3 years?
2. does the 265 fit my case? a midi-tower that measure 44cm? 17.32 inches?
3. will my psu handle the 265?
4. isnt picairn old now? even a 260x use a newer bonaire chip...

I have to choose quickly cause I'm already bought the 265 but I can refund...
something tells me that I did a wrong choice cause the 750ti is a new hardware while the 265 is just a rebrand without trueaudio too (wherever it will be used)...

ty very much

Unless you have a current or future need to have no 6-pin PCI-E connectors, you would be best served with an R7 265 (note the GPU in my sig).

 

[Leyawiin]

Definitely the R7 265. In the past year I've used an HD 7850 overclocked (basically an R7 265 without boost) and a GTX 750 Ti (also overclocked). The HD 7850 was absolutely faster. No contest.