R580: Here by January and smoking 2 512 7800s in SLI

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: MDme
just to lighten up the mood between the ATI and nVidia boys here...

The only thing sure to happen with all the ATI vs nVidia videocard wars is that:

the PS3 will be obsolete when it comes out. It's based on a tweaked g70 (90nm higher clock). Just imagine what kind of PC graphics power will have by the time of Q4 2006.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out. But the Sony fanboys will lap it up real good.

? Tell that to the game developers who keep pumping out quality titles on the PS2 to this day.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: delas52

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: MDme
just to lighten up the mood between the ATI and nVidia boys here...

The only thing sure to happen with all the ATI vs nVidia videocard wars is that:

the PS3 will be obsolete when it comes out. It's based on a tweaked g70 (90nm higher clock). Just imagine what kind of PC graphics power will have by the time of Q4 2006.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out. But the Sony fanboys will lap it up real good.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out? That's what Bill Gates wants you to think. From a hardware perspective, the PS2 was ahead of any consumer computer back in the day (GF1 not withstanding...) There's no confirmation if the RSX is just an OC'd g70 or not, but if it is then yeah, the PS3 may be obsolete when it comes out, and you can thank invidia for that.

Yea, PS2 obsolete when it came out? What a joke.

But thanking nvidia for making the PS3 obsolete? I hope you forgot to mention, "and ati." Without ATI there would be no competition, and vice-versa, and we would pay high bills for bad cards. Plus both companies are always releasing quality cards.

Well, I sure hope the PS3 is not obsolete, because I'm thinking about getting it. But it would suck if the RSX turns out to be an improved g70, and by the time it comes out we will have the r600/g80 kicking it's a$s.

 

[tooltime]

i am not sure i could utilize that kind of HP

 

[Nextman916]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: delas52

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: MDme
just to lighten up the mood between the ATI and nVidia boys here...

The only thing sure to happen with all the ATI vs nVidia videocard wars is that:

the PS3 will be obsolete when it comes out. It's based on a tweaked g70 (90nm higher clock). Just imagine what kind of PC graphics power will have by the time of Q4 2006.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out. But the Sony fanboys will lap it up real good.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out? That's what Bill Gates wants you to think. From a hardware perspective, the PS2 was ahead of any consumer computer back in the day (GF1 not withstanding...) There's no confirmation if the RSX is just an OC'd g70 or not, but if it is then yeah, the PS3 may be obsolete when it comes out, and you can thank invidia for that.

Yea, PS2 obsolete when it came out? What a joke.

But thanking nvidia for making the PS3 obsolete? I hope you forgot to mention, "and ati." Without ATI there would be no competition, and vice-versa, and we would pay high bills for bad cards. Plus both companies are always releasing quality cards.

Well, I sure hope the PS3 is not obsolete, because I'm thinking about getting it. But it would suck if the RSX turns out to be an improved g70, and by the time it comes out we will have the r600/g80 kicking it's a$s.

Ill thank Nvidia for producing the gfx chip in the xbox

 

[frankierx]

is this something seriously important?

 

[2kfire]

Originally posted by: compgeek89

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: compgeek89
I haven't read the whole thread, but for those that didnt notice:

The is the RD580 - A CROSSFIRE CHIPSET, Not a graphics card.

The article says nothing about the R580 gfx chip.

AT specifically mentions R580 graphics core but i mean if you think they mean the RD580 thats okay too.

Read my last post, they mention the r580, they don't have any performance info.

So you noticed that too huh?

For anyone who hasn't noticed, the article says NOTHING about the R580 beating 2 7800 GTXs. It says that 2 crossfire X1800XTs beat 2 SLI 7800 GTXs. Who knows, maybe the R580 will be able to beat 2 sli 7800s, but the article does NOT say that. It talks about the RD580 CHIPSET being a great overclocker but not that the R580 is a great overclocker.

 

[VERTIGGO]

good observation. I'm tired of people confusing the RD580 with the R580:beer:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: compgeek89
I haven't read the whole thread, but for those that didnt notice:

The is the RD580 - A CROSSFIRE CHIPSET, Not a graphics card.

The article says nothing about the R580 gfx chip.

the R580 GPU is still scheduled for launch in January.
:roll:

the R580 GPU is still scheduled for launch in January.

:Q

OK, clear enough
:thumbsup:

 

[2kfire]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: compgeek89
I haven't read the whole thread, but for those that didnt notice:

The is the RD580 - A CROSSFIRE CHIPSET, Not a graphics card.

The article says nothing about the R580 gfx chip.

the R580 GPU is still scheduled for launch in January.
:roll:

the R580 GPU is still scheduled for launch in January.

:Q

OK, clear enough
:thumbsup:

Maybe the poster meant "The article says nothing about the R580 gfx chip" with regards to performance? But yes, the article does say that it is still scheduled to launch in January... Thats all.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: MDme
just to lighten up the mood between the ATI and nVidia boys here...

The only thing sure to happen with all the ATI vs nVidia videocard wars is that:

the PS3 will be obsolete when it comes out. It's based on a tweaked g70 (90nm higher clock). Just imagine what kind of PC graphics power will have by the time of Q4 2006.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out. But the Sony fanboys will lap it up real good.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out? That's what Bill Gates wants you to think. From a hardware perspective, the PS2 was ahead of any consumer computer back in the day (GF1 not withstanding...) There's no confirmation if the RSX is just an OC'd g70 or not, but if it is then yeah, the PS3 may be obsolete when it comes out, and you can thank invidia for that.

PS2 was a joke when it came out. The Dreamcast put out better graphics. 60 million polygons per second my a$$. If you think heavily aliased low res graphics are ahead of even a TNT2 you must be kidding.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: MDme
just to lighten up the mood between the ATI and nVidia boys here...

The only thing sure to happen with all the ATI vs nVidia videocard wars is that:

the PS3 will be obsolete when it comes out. It's based on a tweaked g70 (90nm higher clock). Just imagine what kind of PC graphics power will have by the time of Q4 2006.

Playstation is always obsolete when it comes out. But the Sony fanboys will lap it up real good.

? Tell that to the game developers who keep pumping out quality titles on the PS2 to this day.

Quality titles to someone who doesn't know what a quality title is. It's the same rehash of garbage again and again. The PS2 single-handedly killed innovation in console gaming. Developers didn't give a $hit to make innovative when they had a captive audience of idiots who will eagerly lap up anything that falls out of Sony's a$$ to buy any pretty much anything that runs on that turd of a system. Multiplatform games were limited by the capabilities of the weakest of the three: the PS2.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Quality titles to someone who doesn't know what a quality title is. It's the same rehash of garbage again and again. The PS2 single-handedly killed innovation in console gaming. Developers didn't give a $hit to make innovative when they had a captive audience of idiots who will eagerly lap up anything that falls out of Sony's a$$ to buy any pretty much anything that runs on that turd of a system. Multiplatform games were limited by the capabilities of the weakest of the three: the PS2.

Aside from the fact that all consoles are a little sequel-happy, I'd say that there was more innovation on the PS2 this generation than the PC, and the argument can go either way depending on opinion.

I'd argue that a lineup of:

Metal Gear Solid 2+3
God of War
Devil May Cry
Ico + Shadow of Colossus
Gran Turismo 4
Xenosaga
Final Fantasy X
Resident Evil 4
Suikoden 3
Soul Calibur/Tekken/whatever fighting games are your fancy
etc.

is more revolutionary than what the PC has had in that timeframe. Certainly if you combine what all the consoles have accomplished vs the PC it becomes pretty one sided; PC's have shooters, strategy and MMORPG's locked up (although the Xbox does have Halo 2), but all the other genres are pretty much console only.

I'd agree that on the PS2 innovation isn't priority #1 (cashing in on sequels is), but to claim that the PS2 single-handedly killed innovation on consoles I'd say is quite a bit over the top. Games like Katamri Damacy, Ico, Dance Dance Revolution, etc. did something completely new on the PS2; what kind of brand new and innovative genres has the PC spawned in the past few years?

 

[Soccerman06]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Quality titles to someone who doesn't know what a quality title is. It's the same rehash of garbage again and again. The PS2 single-handedly killed innovation in console gaming. Developers didn't give a $hit to make innovative when they had a captive audience of idiots who will eagerly lap up anything that falls out of Sony's a$$ to buy any pretty much anything that runs on that turd of a system. Multiplatform games were limited by the capabilities of the weakest of the three: the PS2.

Aside from the fact that all consoles are a little sequel-happy, I'd say that there was more innovation on the PS2 this generation than the PC, and the argument can go either way depending on opinion.

I'd argue that a lineup of:

Metal Gear Solid 2+3
God of War
Devil May Cry
Ico + Shadow of Colossus
Gran Turismo 4
Xenosaga
Final Fantasy X
Resident Evil 4
Suikoden 3
Soul Calibur/Tekken/whatever fighting games are your fancy
etc.

is more revolutionary than what the PC has had in that timeframe. Certainly if you combine what all the consoles have accomplished vs the PC it becomes pretty one sided; PC's have shooters, strategy and MMORPG's locked up (although the Xbox does have Halo 2), but all the other genres are pretty much console only.

I'd agree that on the PS2 innovation isn't priority #1 (cashing in on sequels is), but to claim that the PS2 single-handedly killed innovation on consoles I'd say is quite a bit over the top. Games like Katamri Damacy, Ico, Dance Dance Revolution, etc. did something completely new on the PS2; what kind of brand new and innovative genres has the PC spawned in the past few years?

Dont forget the Eyetoy!

 

[edplayer]

ATI to introduce new flagship chip and enhance entry-level GPU line in 1Q06



ATI Technologies is currently in the final stage of testing its R580 graphics processor units (GPUs) with customers, sources at Taiwan graphics card makers indicated, adding that the graphics chip vendor expects to launch the flagship chip in early 2006.

ATI will also be enhancing its entry-level GPU product line on the 80nm production node, with new RV560, RV535, and RV505 chips, the sources noted.

The R580 will be ATI?s latest offering in its flagship GPU line, following the launch of the Radeon X1800 series in early October. The new chip, which entered the tape-out stage in the middle of the third quarter, is now in volume shipments for sampling, according to the sources.

ATI has started implementing an 80nm process technology to produce its entry-level RV560, RV535, and RV505 chips at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), aiming for better production cost efficiency, indicated the sources. Volume shipments are slated for the first quarter of next year, the sources expect.

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20051124A7039.html