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R480 to be released in Q4

As Judge Judy would say:

I don't believe you.

Well, in reality I don't believe the Inquirer. 😛

Wasn't it just the other day that they said there would be no fall refresh?
 
Inquirer hit the nail on the head with the preliminary 3dmark05 results...

i think this is interesting, means x800xt prices are going to fall by xmas time. if they hit 250.00 i'll be a happy camper.
 
Originally posted by: gururu
Inquirer hit the nail on the head with the preliminary 3dmark05 results...

i think this is interesting, means x800xt prices are going to fall by xmas time. if they hit 250.00 i'll be a happy camper.
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Not going to happen this year.

 
Originally posted by: gururu
Inquirer hit the nail on the head with the preliminary 3dmark05 results...

i think this is interesting, means x800xt prices are going to fall by xmas time. if they hit 250.00 i'll be a happy camper.
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We might see $299 X800pro's, but that is about it.
 
Wishful thinking on all accounts. You won't see a Fall refresh other than a sad paper launch you wont see anything but maybe 350 dollar GT's and Pro's, and you'd be lucky to see a 250 dollar x800XT by 2006. I mean look around, you still can't buy a 9800XT for that cheap and it's old news now.
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
As Judge Judy would say:

I don't believe you.

Well, in reality I don't believe the Inquirer. 😛

Wasn't it just the other day that they said there would be no fall refresh?
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Inquirer? No thanks.
I don't doubt that there's a slight possibility to see a fall refresh. I just want to hear it from a more reliable source 😛
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
As Judge Judy would say:

I don't believe you.

Well, in reality I don't believe the Inquirer. 😛

Wasn't it just the other day that they said there would be no fall refresh?
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No, X-bit labs source said the fall refresh was moved forward a quarter (to Q1 -'05).

The Inq has been VERY accurate (except about "availability" of top-end cards) in their "GPU wars" predictions.

imo, We should see r480/nv48 paperlaunched by this year's end (.11 micron) and available in the Spring and r520/nV50 announced in the Spring and available . . . . "shortly"
:roll:

 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: SickBeast
As Judge Judy would say:

I don't believe you.

Well, in reality I don't believe the Inquirer. 😛

Wasn't it just the other day that they said there would be no fall refresh?
Click to expand...
No, X-bit labs source said the fall refresh was moved forward a quarter (to Q1 -'05).

The Inq has been VERY accurate (except about "availability" of top-end cards) in their "GPU wars" predictions.

imo, We should see r480/nv48 paperlaunched by this year's end (.11 micron) and available in the Spring and r520/nV50 announced in the Spring and available . . . . "shortly"
:roll:
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Right. X-bit. Look at their track record and compare it to the Inquirer. My bets are with X-bit. It's already October, and these mystic cards haven't even been anounced. The 6800GT/U cards are still not available here in Toronto, and those cards were "launched" in the spring.
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: SickBeast
As Judge Judy would say:

I don't believe you.

Well, in reality I don't believe the Inquirer. 😛

Wasn't it just the other day that they said there would be no fall refresh?
Click to expand...
No, X-bit labs source said the fall refresh was moved forward a quarter (to Q1 -'05).

The Inq has been VERY accurate (except about "availability" of top-end cards) in their "GPU wars" predictions.

imo, We should see r480/nv48 paperlaunched by this year's end (.11 micron) and available in the Spring and r520/nV50 announced in the Spring and available . . . . "shortly"
:roll:
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Right. X-bit. Look at their track record and compare it to the Inquirer. My bets are with X-bit. It's already October, and these mystic cards haven't even been anounced. The 6800GT/U cards are still not available here in Toronto, and those cards were "launched" in the spring.
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it isn't x-bit's article . . . . 😛

And the ONLY difference between the article linked in x-bit and the Inq's is a single Quarter - EITHER'q4/04 OR q1/05 . . . . BIG difference.
:roll:

And for some reason Canada gets treated like a 3rd world country when it comes to getting new stuff from either Texas or ATI. 😛
 
I think what they are saying is the updates will actually be profitable and they will mass produce them.
 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: SickBeast
As Judge Judy would say:

I don't believe you.

Well, in reality I don't believe the Inquirer. 😛

Wasn't it just the other day that they said there would be no fall refresh?
Click to expand...
No, X-bit labs source said the fall refresh was moved forward a quarter (to Q1 -'05).

The Inq has been VERY accurate (except about "availability" of top-end cards) in their "GPU wars" predictions.

imo, We should see r480/nv48 paperlaunched by this year's end (.11 micron) and available in the Spring and r520/nV50 announced in the Spring and available . . . . "shortly"
:roll:
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Right. X-bit. Look at their track record and compare it to the Inquirer. My bets are with X-bit. It's already October, and these mystic cards haven't even been anounced. The 6800GT/U cards are still not available here in Toronto, and those cards were "launched" in the spring.
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it isn't x-bit's article . . . . 😛

And the ONLY difference between the article linked in x-bit and the Inq's is a single Quarter - EITHER'q4/04 OR q1/05 . . . . BIG difference.
:roll:

And for some reason Canada gets treated like a 3rd world country when it comes to getting new stuff from either Texas or ATI. 😛
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I can't complain about ATi; their headquarters are 20 minutes away from my house, and their graphics cards are always substantially cheaper than anything else in this city. The X800's were somewhat available for quite some time now, albeit expensive as hell.
 
And the ONLY difference between the article linked in x-bit and the Inq's is a single Quarter - EITHER'q4/04 OR q1/05 . . . . BIG difference.
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What did you expect a year? 😛
A whole quarter is approximately 1/4 of the gpu life cycle 🙂
 
Originally posted by: jim1976
And the ONLY difference between the article linked in x-bit and the Inq's is a single Quarter - EITHER'q4/04 OR q1/05 . . . . BIG difference.
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What did you expect a year? 😛
A whole quarter is approximately 1/4 of the gpu life cycle 🙂
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So my Ti4400 is immortal then?

 
When anandtech reviews one of these cards, then start thinking about getting it. Until then, who knows when u can actually get one. And even after that, how long did it take newegg to get in the top of the new gen at msrp prices in stock? Screw hardware release dates. Its here when its here and is almost always later then expected by a good margin.
 
Originally posted by: Marsumane
When anandtech reviews one of these cards, then start thinking about getting it. Until then, who knows when u can actually get one. And even after that, how long did it take newegg to get in the top of the new gen at msrp prices in stock? Screw hardware release dates. Its here when its here and is almost always later then expected by a good margin.
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Oh, i dunno. . . . didn't Anand review the X800XT-PE back in June? It still isn't "really available". 😛
:roll:

ATI and nVidia have outdone themselves this time in their PaperLaunch Feeding Frenzy. . . .
 
Originally posted by: apoppin

ATI and nVidia have outdone themselves this time in their PaperLaunch Feeding Frenzy. . . .
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How can car companies go from an AutoShow concept to a production car in 12 months to 18 months and videocard companies take on something 10x less complex with videocards, and yet they still cant provide sufficient supply and a steady retail distribution?

What is the point of launching a product if you dont have sufficient supplies to meet the market demand? Might as well wait until you build up inventory and flood the market. Even if the other competitor releases their product before you, they could have a shortage of supply. You would produce your units every day for 1 month. Than 1 month later you introduce your card, and you'll gain on them for the "lost" time.

Also what is the deal with 6600 and x700 series on PCI-Express platform ? 99% of all users still use AGP. By the time more than 50% of the people transfer to PCI-E, it will be 2006-2007 at the earliest. These companies have no idea how to make a smooth transition in the market. I figure by the time AGP variants of 6600 and x700 series come out (say by January 2005), they'll be talks about R520 in the Spring. Since newest generation of cards will push x800/6800 series towards mainstream price levels, it would make little sense to buy the current mid-range products. ATI and Nvidia have to get AGP and PCI-E versions out from now until at least 2006 or their ability to maximize their sales potential is lost.
 
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: apoppin

ATI and nVidia have outdone themselves this time in their PaperLaunch Feeding Frenzy. . . .
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How can car companies go from an AutoShow concept to a production car in 12 months to 18 months and videocard companies take on something 10x less complex with videocards, and yet they still cant provide sufficient supply and a steady retail distribution?

What is the point of launching a product if you dont have sufficient supplies to meet the market demand? Might as well wait until you build up inventory and flood the market. Even if the other competitor releases their product before you, they could have a shortage of supply. You would produce your units every day for 1 month. Than 1 month later you introduce your card, and you'll gain on them for the "lost" time.

Also what is the deal with 6600 and x700 series on PCI-Express platform ? 99% of all users still use AGP. By the time more than 50% of the people transfer to PCI-E, it will be 2006-2007 at the earliest. These companies have no idea how to make a smooth transition in the market. I figure by the time AGP variants of 6600 and x700 series come out (say by January 2005), they'll be talks about R520 in the Spring. Since newest generation of cards will push x800/6800 series towards mainstream price levels, it would make little sense to buy the current mid-range products. ATI and Nvidia have to get AGP and PCI-E versions out from now until at least 2006 or their ability to maximize their sales potential is lost.
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ITs the only way to push out new technology, u might have to force the rest of the world to follow.

Also, ive now read that its being MANUFACTURED in Q4, not sold in Q4.

 
The LATEST . . . .

(from the Inq) 😉
R480 to arrive in December PCI Express only for now
WE HAVE LEARNED that ATI's R480 will be native PCI Express only and that at least in 2004 you won't see an AGP variation of the card.

The R480, ATI's flagship chip, will replace X800XT and X800XT PE and it will be offered in two variations with two different clock speeds.

We told you a lot about this chip here.

The X800PRO will be replaced with R430, a new chip on the block, but we suspect that this chip might be very similar to the X800XT PCIe, the R423. The only difference might be the production process as we expect to see this chip built at 110 nanometers. We still don?t know exact details but we know that this chip is real.

As for AGP users, ATI won't offer anything to replace the X800XT Press edition, X800XT and X800PRO at least for a while.

At a later date, sometimesin Q1 2005, ATI might introduce R480 bridged down to AGP with its RIALTO bridge chip.
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