R.Perry: Left "Never Going To Like Us, So Let's Stop Trying To Curry Favor With Them"

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Lifer
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Kinda leaves out all the current repub candidates doesn't it? Except maybe Romney and his magic underwear.

Well, there's Republican candidates who only pay lip service to religious conservatives and there's Republican candidates who are true believers. The former I can tolerate as president.. the latter I detest.
 

CallMeJoe

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Well, there's Republican candidates who only pay lip service to religious conservatives and there's Republican candidates who are true believers. The former I can tolerate as president.. the latter I detest.
You prefer dishonesty to delusion?
 

Nebor

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And it's going to hurt you in the long run when your high school grads can't do simple math or read at a fifth grade level. They wont even be educated enough to run a cash register.

Texas has been going down hill for the last 20 years, ever since the republican took over the state government.

Cash registers don't require any math skills now.
 

ProfJohn

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I think it is a done deal too.

Word is that he really didn't want to run, but feels like he has to since he and so many others are unhappy with the current slate of candidates.

If Mitch Daniels had ran then I don't think Perry would have joined. But right now there aren't any strong conservatives with a big enough of a name to push Romney out of the way.

And the last thing we need it is Romenycare v. Obamacare.

The election needs to be 100% about the failure of Obama on nearly every level.
 

Red Dawn

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I think it is a done deal too.

Word is that he really didn't want to run, but feels like he has to since he and so many others are unhappy with the current slate of candidates.

If Mitch Daniels had ran then I don't think Perry would have joined. But right now there aren't any strong conservatives with a big enough of a name to push Romney out of the way.

And the last thing we need it is Romenycare v. Obamacare.

The election needs to be 100% about the failure of Obama on nearly every level.

Independents will never vote for a whackjob Funie/Social Conservative.
 

ProfJohn

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Independents will never vote for a whackjob Funie/Social Conservative.
Luckily he isn't one of those.

He believes that the states should decide gay marriage for themselves, similar for abortion I believe.

He is a strange politician who actually wants the Feds to have less power and the states to have more. I think that message is going to play very well with our country being very unhappy with what Washington is giving them.
 

GuitarDaddy

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If true I can't wait for him to hit the campaign trail and make a complete fool of himself. He's like the worst of GWB and Sara Palin all rolled into one, anything beyond 15 second sound bites and he shows what a truely brainless twit he is.

The rightwing fringe will love him, but the more centrist Republicans will quickly realize he is dumb as a box or rocks.
 

CrackRabbit

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Luckily he isn't one of those.

He believes that the states should decide gay marriage for themselves, similar for abortion I believe.

He is a strange politician who actually wants the Feds to have less power and the states to have more. I think that message is going to play very well with our country being very unhappy with what Washington is giving them.

As a former Texan I can say with certainty that the image that Rick Perry projects and what Rick Perry actually does are two very, very different things.

Think of him as a conservative Obama in that respect.

You have bought in to the image, I know better than that now.
 

Wreckem

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So you know that $6billion left in the rainy day fund?

It is just more fancy accounting from the Lege and Gov. Tweeter.

To balance the budget for fy2012-2013, the state underfunded its medicad liabilities to the tune of ~$5billion.

So yeah there is no rainy day fund, because the state will HAVE to use the rainy day fund to cover it during the new two year budget cycle. This is why they didn't want to tap it for education because their fraudulent message and accounting tricks would be exposed.
 
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chowderhead

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Perry is a joke. The governor of Texas is perhaps the third most powerful position in the state.
Here is a poll match up of Obama vs. the Republican field


Barack Obama: 42 (42)
Mitt Romney: 50 (49)
Undecided: 9 (9)

Barack Obama: 43
Tim Pawlenty: 44
Undecided: 13

Barack Obama: 44
Michele Bachmann: 47
Undecided: 9


Barack Obama: 47 (45)
Rick Perry: 45 (45)
Undecided: 8 (11)


Barack Obama: 46 (46)
Sarah Palin: 44 (47)
Undecided: 10 (7)

Barack Obama: 43
Herman Cain: 43
Undecided: 14

Barack Obama: 40
Ron Paul: 45
Undecided: 15
(MoE: ±3.5%)

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_TX_629513.pdf

the poll is of voters in Texas. What a joke.
 

ProfJohn

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The poll sounds like crap.

McCain won Texas by 11 points. I can't imagine that Obama's support in Texas has grown over the last 3 years.
 

irishScott

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And with that post Perry displays an ignorance that 80% of America is some kind of moderate and that the fight, past the primaries, is for that vote. Or maybe he's just trying to drum up support for the primaries.

Bottom line, McCain proved that pandering to your party base will not win you the general election. His pandering worked. Entire Republican base voted for McCain. He lost.

I know it's just the primaries, but it looks like Republicans are setting themselves up for a reverse Bush-Kerry, where Bush voters simply thought Kerry was even worse, and Kerry voters thought anything, not matter how bad, was better than Bush.
 

Nebor

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And with that post Perry displays an ignorance that 80% of America is some kind of moderate and that the fight, past the primaries, is for that vote. Or maybe he's just trying to drum up support for the primaries.

Bottom line, McCain proved that pandering to your party base will not win you the general election. His pandering worked. Entire Republican base voted for McCain. He lost.

I know it's just the primaries, but it looks like Republicans are setting themselves up for a reverse Bush-Kerry, where Bush voters simply thought Kerry was even worse, and Kerry voters thought anything, not matter how bad, was better than Bush.

I'd be satisfied if Perry won the primaries and lost the election to Obama.
 

Arkaign

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<-- Texan.

Perry is trash, but that's no surprise.

I also think it's hilarious how partisans from both sides can't see how similar Bush, Obama, etc really are in the end.

I have but one guarantee for us :

National politics will continue to be a crooked game run by evil people who only care about furthering their own careers and scoring 'points' for their team while lying to everyone. There is no good in these people, only varying stripes of bad.
 

davmat787

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<-- Texan.

Perry is trash, but that's no surprise.

I also think it's hilarious how partisans from both sides can't see how similar Bush, Obama, etc really are in the end.

I have but one guarantee for us :

National politics will continue to be a crooked game run by evil people who only care about furthering their own careers and scoring 'points' for their team while lying to everyone. There is no good in these people, only varying stripes of bad.

Agreed! For all the rage and fingerpointing between the partisan hacks, what are the real world differences today than when Bush was in Office? What has really changed?

I have been saying this for a while now: I am so tired of all this partisan douchebaggery, it just deflects attention to eachother while those in DC go on playing their destructive games. The greatest threat is a divided republic that is insistent on a blame/victimization culture, not whether a congressman has a (D) or (R) after their name.
 

davmat787

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I know it's just the primaries, but it looks like Republicans are setting themselves up for a reverse Bush-Kerry, where Bush voters simply thought Kerry was even worse, and Kerry voters thought anything, not matter how bad, was better than Bush.

Would not be surprised at all if that analogy is indeed prophetic.
 

ayabe

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Sounds like he's trying to capitalize on his bona fides before Texas completely implodes in the next couple of years due to their budget problems.

I would love the hear the disembodied voice of the spaghetti monster announce his endorsement of Perry during their yee-haw revival. There could be a great video montage, maybe a smoke machine and some great snacks like fried ice cream.

Also don't forget to pass the collection tray, it's for Jesus.

Edit - Does anyone actually know when the Republicans last tried to curry favor with anyone to the left of the Bircher crowd? If I had to guess it was probably during Reagan's term.
 
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Siddhartha

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Sounds like he's trying to capitalize on his bona fides before Texas completely implodes in the next couple of years due to their budget problems.

I would love the hear the disembodied voice of the spaghetti monster announce his endorsement of Perry during their yee-haw revival. There could be a great video montage, maybe a smoke machine and some great snacks like fried ice cream.

Also don't forget to pass the collection tray, it's for Jesus.

Edit - Does anyone actually know when the Republicans last tried to curry favor with anyone to the left of the Bircher crowd? If I had to guess it was probably during Reagan's term.

Mr McCain choose Ms Palin with the idea that she would bring in the pissed off Ms Clinton supporters after Mr Obama had the Democratic Party POTUS nomination tied up.
 

ayabe

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Mr McCain choose Ms Palin with the idea that she would bring in the pissed off Ms Clinton supporters after Mr Obama had the Democratic Party POTUS nomination tied up.

I'd call that pure cynicism vs a legitimate attempt to curry favor.