Quite possibly the most bizarre screed on Firefly I've ever seen

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Queasy

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Did she say anything in her rant about Mal's treatment of Saffron in the episode, "Our Mrs. Reynolds?"

Yes. Her user profile is almost as bizarre as her Firefly screed.
 
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OK, I went back and reread the whole thing, including the comments, and she's not just a demented loon, she is racist and sexist to boot. Some examples:

"The first scene opens in a war with Mal and Zoe. Zoe runs around calling Mal ?sir? and taking orders off him. I roll my eyes. Not a good start."
She has no idea how the military works. Check.

"Jayne asks Mal to get Kaylee to stop being so cheerful. Mal replies, ?Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.? Yes, that is an exact quote, ?Sometimes you just wanna DUCT TAPE HER MOUTH and DUMP HER IN THE HOLD FOR A MONTH.?"
She doesn't understand friendly banter between old friends. Check.

"Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Joss uses his own wife in this way. Expects her to clean up his emotional messes. Expects her to be there, eternally supportive, eternally subservient and grateful to him in all his manly glory. I hope the money is worth it, Mrs. Whedon. But somehow I doubt that it is. No amount of money can buy back wasted emotional resources."
She thinks that Joss Whedon's wife is his whore. Check.

"Let me just say now that I have never personally known of a healthy relationship between a white man and a woman of colour. I have known a black woman whose white husband would strangle and bash her while her young children watched. My white grandfather liked black women because they were ?exotic?, and he did not, could not treat women, especially women of colour, like human beings. I grew up watching my great aunts, my aunty and my mother all treated like shit by their white husbands, the men they loved. So you will forgive me for believing that the character, Wash, is a rapist and an abuser, particularly considering that he treats Zoe like an object and possession."
She is racist towards white people because of her upbringing. Check.

"I believe in the radical feminist definition of rape. That is that men who pressure women into sex are rapists. That women who are pressured are not freely consenting and are therefore being raped. There have been a few discussions recently in the rad fem blogosphere debating whether all male initiated sex is rape, given that women are politically, socially and economically subordinate to men. So, in my understanding of Joss Whedon as a rapist is hinges on my definition of rape. I would argue that most 'sex' between men and women, in the contemporary 'sex-positive', pornographic, male-supremacist culture, is rape."
She believes all men are rapists. Check.

"I hate men."
Yes, she actually admits this in the comments. If it weren't obvious from reading everything else she wrote, she admits to hating men. Check.

In short, I hate this woman. The world would be a better place without her hatred. Maybe I'm just jaded, since as a white man, she apparently hates me twice over. But I'd like to think that even if I were a black woman, this sort of venemous bile would bother me. You don't beat bigotry with bigotry you goddamn jackass. Until you learn that lesson, you will continue to be part of the problem.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: BigJ
I believe in the radical feminist definition of rape. That is that men who pressure women into sex are rapists. That women who are pressured are not freely consenting and are therefore being raped. There have been a few discussions recently in the rad fem blogosphere debating whether all male initiated sex is rape, given that women are politically, socially and economically subordinate to men. So, in my understanding of Joss Whedon as a rapist is hinges on my definition of rape. I would argue that most 'sex' between men and women, in the contemporary 'sex-positive', pornographic, male-supremacist culture, is rape.

So, I think Joss Whedon is a rapist because it is impossible for me to believe that a man who produces a show like Firefly, a man who openly objectifies women in his interviews, a man who based the character of Xander Harris (a pro-porn, sex-obsessed teenage male in Buffy) it is imposible for me to believe that this man does not pressure his wife for sex. If he has pressured his wife for sex even if she eventually consented he is still a rapist. I know far too many women who have been, and are being, forced, coerced, manipulated, pressured into sex that they do not want with their male partners. I'd bet anything that Joss is one of these men. And if he is then he is a rapist in my books.

You hear that? We're all rapists!

Conclusion:

Radical feminists do not like, nor want sex. They should be deprived of sexual pleasure the rest of their life. All vibrators/toys shall be taken away from them and forbidden, and if necessary, their fingers removed.

But that shouldn't be necessary right? They should just not do it since it's so repulsive to them.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: datalink7
I believe in the radical feminist definition of rape. That is that men who pressure women into sex are rapists. That women who are pressured are not freely consenting and are therefore being raped. There have been a few discussions recently in the rad fem blogosphere debating whether all male initiated sex is rape, given that women are politically, socially and economically subordinate to men. So, in my understanding of Joss Whedon as a rapist is hinges on my definition of rape. I would argue that most 'sex' between men and women, in the contemporary 'sex-positive', pornographic, male-supremacist culture, is rape.

oooookkkkkkk.....:roll:

This irks me the most. What pisses me off is how much her statements devalue the trauma and struggle from actual rape victims by "commonizing" the word. Especially when I think about a woman very close to me who suffered a tremendously violent rape when she was younger. She would certainly punch this bitch in the face.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: randay
lesbian feminist != feminist
lesbian feminist = I_hate_males

Reminds me of Banky's (Jason Lee) lecture to Holden (Affleck) on lesbians in Chasing Amy.

YouTube of the scene.

Banky Edwards: Alright, now see this? This is a four-way road, OK? And dead in the center is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now, at the end of each of these streets are four people, OK? Are you following?
Holden: Yeah.
Banky Edwards: Good. Over here, we have a male-affectionate, easy to get along with, non-political agenda lesbian. Down here, we have a man-hating, angry as fuck, agenda of rage, bitter ***. Over here, we got Santa Claus, and up here the Easter Bunny. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first?
Holden: What is this supposed to prove?
Banky Edwards: No, I'm serious. This is a serious exercise. It's like an SAT question. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first? The male-friendly lesbian, the man-hating ***, Santa Claus, or the Easter bunny?
Holden: The man-hating ***.
Banky Edwards: Good. Why?
Holden: I don't know.
Banky Edwards: Because the other three are figments of your fucking imagination!
 

legoman666

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Don't take me seriously, but I think that woman needs to be raped by a huge black dude.

I was going to write up a nice comment for her, but no doubt she wouldn't post an opposing view point. She probably writes trash like this just for the argument that it creates.
 

Agentbolt

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Not all lesbian feminists hate men, guys. Assuming all of them do is shades of this crazy bitch. I know some gayer than hell feminists who think men are fine.
 
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Originally posted by: OdiN
Conclusion:

Radical feminists do not like, nor want sex. They should be deprived of sexual pleasure the rest of their life. All vibrators/toys shall be taken away from them and forbidden, and if necessary, their fingers removed.

But that shouldn't be necessary right? They should just not do it since it's so repulsive to them.

A good bumper sticker for a radical lesbian: When you masturbate, you're only raping yourself.


Originally posted by: Queasy
Reminds me of Banky's (Jason Lee) lecture to Holden (Affleck) on lesbians in Chasing Amy.

YouTube of the scene.

Banky Edwards: Alright, now see this? This is a four-way road, OK? And dead in the center is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now, at the end of each of these streets are four people, OK? Are you following?
Holden: Yeah.
Banky Edwards: Good. Over here, we have a male-affectionate, easy to get along with, non-political agenda lesbian. Down here, we have a man-hating, angry as fuck, agenda of rage, bitter ***. Over here, we got Santa Claus, and up here the Easter Bunny. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first?
Holden: What is this supposed to prove?
Banky Edwards: No, I'm serious. This is a serious exercise. It's like an SAT question. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first? The male-friendly lesbian, the man-hating ***, Santa Claus, or the Easter bunny?
Holden: The man-hating ***.
Banky Edwards: Good. Why?
Holden: I don't know.
Banky Edwards: Because the other three are figments of your fucking imagination!

That scene is brilliant. It's an absolute lie, of course (I was raised by lesbians, so I've known quite a few that aren't raging man-hating dykes), but it's still damn funny.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
That scene is brilliant. It's an absolute lie, of course (I was raised by lesbians, so I've known quite a few that aren't raging man-hating dykes), but it's still damn funny.

Oh, I know. I was just saying that randay's post reminded me of that scene. :)
 

torpid

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So what you are saying is that some random moron on the internet has an illogical opinion on something in their blog? I'd never have believed it until this thread, thanks.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Evolution is never wrong. If we evolved into a male-centric society, there is a reason for it.