Haven't posted much on here, but I've been reading. I need some opinions. I am currently using the Tt P4 SPARK 7+ for my HSF. It's cooling a P4 Prescott 2.8Ghz. This thing is too Damn loud. Was wondering what other Prescott owners are using on their rigs for a very effective QUIETER (non-hairdryer sounding) application. My case is a generic case, but pretty nicely designed IMO. Has 120mm front and rear fans, and 80mm top and side fans. Any advice is appreciated.
Quieter Solution
- Thread starter ElvishFrost
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Depending on the depth of the case, you could consider a Scythe Ninja, run it passively or with a quiet fan such as an undervolted yate loon/nexus
I built a Prescott P4 2.8Ghz system for my mother and used the Thermaltake Silent 775 heatsink and fan (92mm fan) but when I go over and listen to it, I still find it to be somewhat loud. I use a Thermalright XP-120 with a 7V 120mm fan, so my AMD system is far quieter. So, if you want quiet, you definitely need a cooling system with some sort of 120mm fan.
I would avoid going passive with any Prescott chip, as they are the toaster ovens of the processor world. A XP-120 can run up to $60+ (without a fan), but you might try the Thermaltake Big Typhoon as an alternative. It is known as one of the quieter solutions out there, and cools very well. All for less than $50:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106061
Just make sure it can fit in your case, most mid-towers being fine, but double-check for any small case.
I would avoid going passive with any Prescott chip, as they are the toaster ovens of the processor world. A XP-120 can run up to $60+ (without a fan), but you might try the Thermaltake Big Typhoon as an alternative. It is known as one of the quieter solutions out there, and cools very well. All for less than $50:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106061
Just make sure it can fit in your case, most mid-towers being fine, but double-check for any small case.
I appreciate your input here 
I've posted a couple of pics of the case itself and of the area around the cpu. Any suggestions on what won't fit? I don't think I have room for the Big Typhoon... (pics have stock HSF, before I put the obnoxiously loud Tt SPARK 7+)
HSF and Rear 120mm
Top view HSF
Case Exterior
(pay no attention to my attempt at neat wiring, this is getting completely redone very soon)
Thanks
EDIT: I do plan on Overclocking if this will lean toward any particular AIR cooler. 2.8 OC'd @ 3.36 atm
I've posted a couple of pics of the case itself and of the area around the cpu. Any suggestions on what won't fit? I don't think I have room for the Big Typhoon... (pics have stock HSF, before I put the obnoxiously loud Tt SPARK 7+)HSF and Rear 120mm
Top view HSF
Case Exterior
(pay no attention to my attempt at neat wiring, this is getting completely redone very soon)
Thanks
EDIT: I do plan on Overclocking if this will lean toward any particular AIR cooler. 2.8 OC'd @ 3.36 atm
I think you do have room for the Typhoon, although you might have to remove the fan on the side of the case. The Typhoon has a 120mm fan, so to get an idea of space you can center a same size fan over the processor.
An Thermalright XP-120 would fit fine as well, as it does in my case (I also have rear 120mm exhaust fans -- fits with about 5-6mm to spare)
I really think you could fit most anything you want.
An Thermalright XP-120 would fit fine as well, as it does in my case (I also have rear 120mm exhaust fans -- fits with about 5-6mm to spare)
I really think you could fit most anything you want.
Careful...I have a similar motherboard (SE version) and there are some issues with larger heatsinks running into the power supply. The socket placement is very high up on the motherboard.
For instance, you can (barely) fit the Zalman 7000, but not the 7700. I don't think you'll be able to use the Big Typhoon or any other cooler with a horizontally mounted 120mm fan.
Check manufacturer's compatibility charts, they usually have specific info on that motherboard.
You'll be able to use pretty much any heatsink using a horizontally mounted 92mm fan, and most of the vertically mounted 120mm ones.
-z
For instance, you can (barely) fit the Zalman 7000, but not the 7700. I don't think you'll be able to use the Big Typhoon or any other cooler with a horizontally mounted 120mm fan.
Check manufacturer's compatibility charts, they usually have specific info on that motherboard.
You'll be able to use pretty much any heatsink using a horizontally mounted 92mm fan, and most of the vertically mounted 120mm ones.
-z
How much do you want to spend? $25 can get you an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, which performs very well and uses one of the quieter fans. A bit more, and you can go with a Scythe Ninja.
Well Less $$ is always good. The one on here currently (not in those pics) cools well, but is extremely loud to do so...upwards of 50dB. So if I can still overclock effectively and maintain low temps with my prescott , then I'll weigh all options. I don't need it whisper silent, but would like quieter. Which better choices have the Vertically mounted 120mm fans?
I'm not quite sure what you mean by vertically mounted? Do you mean the heatsinks with the fans that blow onto the motherboard, or the ones with the fans that blow parallel to the motherboard?
I was going by Zagood's post. I would take it that it means Horizontally (same position as the stock fan...parallel with the mobo) and Vertical would be opposite. (on the side of the heatsink) also I was going to add that I have socket 478, not sure if I mentioned it before and if that removes some of my choices.
Horizontal - blows onto the motherboard. Vertical - blows parallel.
Recommendations (check out the Heatsink reviews stickied on the thread index)
Vertical:
Zalman 9500 (92mm)
Scythe Ninja
Horizontal:
XP-90
Check my link earlier in this thread to see my results with the 9500. Mine is a little off balance so I'm replacing the fan, but others seem to have very, very quiet models.
-z
Recommendations (check out the Heatsink reviews stickied on the thread index)
Vertical:
Zalman 9500 (92mm)
Scythe Ninja
Horizontal:
XP-90
Check my link earlier in this thread to see my results with the 9500. Mine is a little off balance so I'm replacing the fan, but others seem to have very, very quiet models.
-z
True. But none that are as sexy (and fit the sock 478). It's also the most efficient for its weight. The main drawback, just like pretty much all Zalman CPU heatsinks, is the fan. Why can't they just use someone else's fan?
Ninjas are about $40, used to be able to find the 9500 for under $50, looks like it's creeping back up in price.
-z
Ninjas are about $40, used to be able to find the 9500 for under $50, looks like it's creeping back up in price.
-z
I really appreciate your help on this guys.. The Ninja looks good with the 120mm just hope it will clear my side fan..(I could always put it on the outside of the door..lol
Before investing the $40+, measure the distance between the top of the processor (around 5mm or so above the mobo) and case wall/fan. That way you'll know for sure before having to try to send it back or resell to someone else.
Ninja Plus dimensions:
http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/006/scnj1000p.html
110 x 110 x 150mm
Note that using a 120mm fan on there will add onto the height of the heatsink, around 20mm judging from the photos. Someone out there that owns one verify total distance from motherboard with fan attached?
-z
Wait a minute...crap...lol...
The ninja won't work on that motherboard with a 120mm fan. Neither will any other vertical mount 120mm fan.
The distance is still 60mm from the center of the processor, too far for that mobo. The only way you'd be able to do it is to mount the ninja with the fan on the underside of the heatsink, blowing up (towards the power supply). Best case scenario: blows warm air directly into the power supply. Worst case: air reflects off the power supply housing and creates warm air pockets, choking both the PSU and CPU heatsink.
I mean, unless someone has a Ninja on a p4p800 or variant and can share their experiences with it...I can't find anything on the web.
Sorry man. Look at the 9500 if you can afford it, or the xp90.
-z
The ninja won't work on that motherboard with a 120mm fan. Neither will any other vertical mount 120mm fan.
The distance is still 60mm from the center of the processor, too far for that mobo. The only way you'd be able to do it is to mount the ninja with the fan on the underside of the heatsink, blowing up (towards the power supply). Best case scenario: blows warm air directly into the power supply. Worst case: air reflects off the power supply housing and creates warm air pockets, choking both the PSU and CPU heatsink.
I mean, unless someone has a Ninja on a p4p800 or variant and can share their experiences with it...I can't find anything on the web.
Sorry man. Look at the 9500 if you can afford it, or the xp90.
-z
I have a Prescott 3.4 and have it OC'd to 4.0 on air. It's also very quiet and runs 44 degress most of the time and up to 60 during a torture test.
I'm using a Sonata case with twin 120's front and rear. (they both run at low speed). The HSF is a Thermaltake Silent Tower and the speed is controlled by the BIOS. It only spools up to full speed when the CPU temp reaches 60 degrees which only happens when I torture it.
My system is not dead quiet but it has a low pleasant sound 99% of the time.
When I built my system I was told you couldn't do a Prescott at 4.0 on air and also have a quiet system. I proved them wrong.
If I were shopping for a new HSF I'd sure be looking hard at the Tuniq Tower. It looks like it's best of class these days.
I'm using a Sonata case with twin 120's front and rear. (they both run at low speed). The HSF is a Thermaltake Silent Tower and the speed is controlled by the BIOS. It only spools up to full speed when the CPU temp reaches 60 degrees which only happens when I torture it.
My system is not dead quiet but it has a low pleasant sound 99% of the time.
When I built my system I was told you couldn't do a Prescott at 4.0 on air and also have a quiet system. I proved them wrong.
If I were shopping for a new HSF I'd sure be looking hard at the Tuniq Tower. It looks like it's best of class these days.
You might want to cut the fan grill out of the back of your case - it's a horrible design that is blocking a LOT of airflow.
For a fairly cheap but good cooler, try the Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu. It's not a heatpipe cooler but it works surprisingly well and is silent when run at low speed.
For a fairly cheap but good cooler, try the Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu. It's not a heatpipe cooler but it works surprisingly well and is silent when run at low speed.
zagood-- I was checking out the zalman coolers and not one of them (according to their site) is compatable with my mobo ... And apparently I'm not very Bright...I have the p4p800 SE... I'm not sure why I thought it was just the p4p800. But I still did not see it listed under any of those listings on Zalman's site.
varun-- Thanks for the reminder...I intended to do that, and I forgot :-X
varun-- Thanks for the reminder...I intended to do that, and I forgot :-X
Agreed on the fan grill cut. Do that to the front too.
From Zalman's compatibility chart:
9500 LED: ASUS P4P800 SE - 8.5mm Required (between mobo and power supply)
7000: List is of non-compatible mobos. Yours is fine.
7700: Not Compatible.
To see what you're looking at as far as distance, compatibility etc., you can use Zalman's chart as a guide. This is for the 7000, which is 109mmx109mm. They list the amount of distance you need from the edge of the motherboard retention guide to the power supply as 1.7cm. That means for a 120mm fan/heatsink to be able to fit, you'd need at least 2.8cm from the edge of the retention guide to the power supply.
It's possible that your case mounts the motherboard lower, but it's doubtful looking at the pictures.
From personal experience, the 7000 is a tight fit with that mobo and the 9500 fits with no problems.
Tuniq Tower - Excellent cooler. Won't fit (unless you can mount it with the fan pointing at the psu)
-z
EDIT: Don't forget to get a wire fan grill for the back. Don't need one for the front.
Also, what case fans are you using? You once you figure out a quieter heatsink/fan, you're going to notice the other fans in your system. Start with case fans, then GPU heatsink, then power supply. It's an addiction, I know, but it's worth it.
From Zalman's compatibility chart:
9500 LED: ASUS P4P800 SE - 8.5mm Required (between mobo and power supply)
7000: List is of non-compatible mobos. Yours is fine.
7700: Not Compatible.
To see what you're looking at as far as distance, compatibility etc., you can use Zalman's chart as a guide. This is for the 7000, which is 109mmx109mm. They list the amount of distance you need from the edge of the motherboard retention guide to the power supply as 1.7cm. That means for a 120mm fan/heatsink to be able to fit, you'd need at least 2.8cm from the edge of the retention guide to the power supply.
It's possible that your case mounts the motherboard lower, but it's doubtful looking at the pictures.
From personal experience, the 7000 is a tight fit with that mobo and the 9500 fits with no problems.
Tuniq Tower - Excellent cooler. Won't fit (unless you can mount it with the fan pointing at the psu)
-z
EDIT: Don't forget to get a wire fan grill for the back. Don't need one for the front.
Also, what case fans are you using? You once you figure out a quieter heatsink/fan, you're going to notice the other fans in your system. Start with case fans, then GPU heatsink, then power supply. It's an addiction, I know, but it's worth it.
zagood-- do you have any pics of how the zalman looks on your setup? My case fans are globe fans (brand) Ball bearing. I'm going to replace those as well, and low-volt them to quiet down the entire system.
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