Quick Review of the LG Vu

shortylickens

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I already found my dream phone, which I will review eventually. But I went over to AT&T just to check things out and got the LG Vu for experiment purposes. Nice as it is, I wont keep it.
Apologize in advance for my pics. Am using an 8 year old camera (which works suprisingly well compared to many modern cameras) and never learned much about photography. I do know I need better lighting but I dont feel like setting all that up just for an informal review.

BUILD:
Slick. I never thought a phone was "sexy". I think girls are sexy, especially their toes. But phones are just "easy on the eyes" or "not easy on the eyes" to me. I think this phone is nice though. Its an iPhone ripoff to be sure, but I like it better. Its much slimmer and lighter. Glossy black plastic body with a silver rim.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/zoom.php?h=3030
Its a simple bar design and quite thin. No sliding keyboard or anything. Almost all functions are done on the touch screen. Solid feel all over, but its certainly not a durable phone. The whole thing is a fingerprint magnet and I suspect the screen may scratch easily. I hate cameras on phones but this one is flush with the back and you will never notice it during normal handling.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ens/01_OverallSize.jpg
Three sides are blank, the right side has a single data port which also handles the charger and wired headphones (included). Right side also has a small volume rocker, dedicated camera button, and lock button.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ickens/02_SideView.jpg

Front is beautiful. Screen takes up most of the face, with a little room on the bottom for the tiny Send & End buttons, which you will rarely use. Almost everything is done from the touch screen. There are 4 buttons found along the bottom of the home screen, Menu, TV, Contacts, and Call.

The call button brings up your numerical keypad, and its plenty big enough for large fingers.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ylickens/04_Keypad.jpg

The device lights up well in the dark, and you can adjust the brightness level & timeout settings.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ickens/03_Darkness.jpg

BATTERY:
OK, but not great. Its to be expected from such a powerful phone thats also small and low weight. I guess they figure you will be charging this thing at work and in your car. Which is funny because they didnt include a car charger and you need a special one to work with this devices proprietary plug. Its not even the same as all of the other LG's micro-usb phones.

INTERFACE:
You can easily change themes between black, blue, butterfly and fish.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...5_Menu_water_theme.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ckens/06_Menu_onyx.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...nu_butterfly_theme.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s.../08_menu_fishTheme.jpg

If you choose to not use a wallpaper the fish & butterfly themes have moving objects on the homepage.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...n_Fish_NoWallpaper.jpg

If you only want something simple and basic its best to go with the Onyx theme and no wallpaper. But this makes the homepage a little too relfective (you can see my camera). http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...e_Onyx_NoWallpaper.jpg

Some folks complained about this device being useless in the sun but I was able to enjoy all its functions with no issues. Fish theme looks best outside.
Touching works fine even for my fumbling fingers. You can enable haptic feedback which is a tiny little vibration every time you touch something. I dont think its the next best thing in cell phones but some folks seem to like it. You can drag your finger up and down to scroll through menus or web pages. If you have chubby fingers you may be out of luck, this device does not include a stylus. Incidentally, the haptic feedback on the Vu feels much nicer than the Voyager. I have no idea why that is.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ickens/15_Contacts.jpg

Another little advantage is you wont be opening & closing it constantly. No sliding or flipping. All the keyboard stuff is done onscreen. This is actually much nicer than my Env2 and Voyager which require you to constantly open them.
For some strange reason the menu on the Vu is much easier to navigate than the Voyager or Env2. I suspect this is a carrier issue and not one with the phones. It might seem unimportant but since none of these phones allow menu customization, its actually a big deal. The Voyager and Env2 allow shortcut customization but its not very good. Certainly not as good as my Nokia 6301 was. Maybe they figure you wont care if you have a big screen, which is probably true.

MULTIMEDIA:
This is where the phone shines. It was specifically designed to take advantage of AT&T's new TV service. The phone even includes an extendable attenna to help reception (which I never used). http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/shortylickens/11_TV.jpg

Amazingly enough they have a Victorias Secret Channel, along with about 8 others. None of them are special but they are all good quality, much better than any sort of streaming video currently available, and you dont have to wait for the slow-ass 3G network to cache the data. YOU PAY FOR THIS SERVICE SEPERATE FROM DATA! At&t runs the TV channels on their own, not leeched off Comcast or DirectTV or anything. For the extra money this feature is really only useful to hardcore multimedia junkies, especially considering the limited number of channels you get.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...lickens/12_TV_menu.jpg

You can do basic things with your subscription directly from the phone, even do parental controls.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ens/13_TV_Settings.jpg

Most of the shows have some sort of description, just like your favorite digital TV provider.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s.../14_TV_description.jpg

The device has a basic music player and can do streaming or local videos as well. Obviously you pay extra for any sort of streaming service. In fact this sucker doesnt seem

to have much of anything thats free. This may be a step down from iPhone and Google phone junkies.

You dont get many apps by default and all the ones you can find cost extra. Havent seen anything that was free.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ickens/24_ATT_Mall.jpg

In fact the few things they do include are all trial versions.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/shortylickens/26_apps.jpg

Even the weather service.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ens/27_weather_app.jpg

This may seem like a nitpick but its different from what I have with Verizon wireless and my LG EnV2. With full data service you get a cute little personalized web and can access all sorts of information for free (as part of your data plan).

But the LG Vu with AT&T makes you download special programs pay service fees for damn near everything. HOWEVER, you can access most anything you want with their web browser. As good as it is you may just find it easier to type in a URL and make a shortcut.
This is the loading screen for the browser. Get used to it, you may spend an aweful lot of time here.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ickens/20_Web_open.jpg

Web viewing is good but not great. Some sites automatically load up their mobile page, others do not. Anandtech loads the full page and it takes FOREVER on 3G speeds. I always got bored and left before it was done. The good news is you can always hit the End button and get out quickly.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ickens/22_vertical.jpg

You can swap between vertical and horizontal viewing easily.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ckens/23_Landscape.jpg

They also have a Media Mall which is very expensive and kind of pointless if you know how to copy stuff to your SD card. The box from AT&T did NOT include a USB cable, just the charger. Music sounds decent through the included headphones. If you wanna use your own headset it will need to be BlueTooth.
The device also has quick access to a Java based XM radio service, which costs extra.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ickens/25_XM_Radio.jpg

MESSAGING:
First off, this sucker has an awesome keypad.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...ylickens/21_QWERTY.jpg
I thought I would be making lots of mistakes but didnt.

It has basic IM clients.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...s/16_IM_Clientsjpg.jpg

And email service, which is Java Based.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...kens/17_email_main.jpg

You can only use the services they include.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s..._email_add_account.jpg

Which lacks Google Mail.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...19_email_add_other.jpg

GMAIL will have to be done through the web browser. Luckily their site recognizes the device and loads up the efficient mobile pages.

It has very basic productivity tools. Again we are reminded this is a phone for media enthusiasts, not power users.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...lickens/28_goodies.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/shortylickens/29_tools.jpg

You can also enable shortcuts on the home screen.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s..._shortcuts_enabled.jpg

If not using these shortcuts you can change the clock format.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s.../31_clock_settings.jpg

You are also allowed to customize the touch feedback. Vibrate of various levels and sounds of various levels. Or nothing, which many folks may prefer.
The LG Vu has all the features we'd expect from a high end phone. Airplane mode, full security options, touch screen calibration, and one-button update for all your apps.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/shortylickens/32_Other.jpg

Also, when you hit the volume rocker you get a screen showing you exactly how loud and if vibrate is enabled. It only lasts a split second and wont detract from your normal usage. http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/s...s/33_volume_rocker.jpg


CONCLUSIONS:
Neat little multimedia phone. Could have used GPS & Wifi but that would make the thing much bigger and heavier. Its suprisingly light & thin for all its usefulness and maybe thats what folks need. We already have plenty of super-phones like the offerings from Apple and Google. Not to mention all the new Blackberry's. And thats why it may be difficult to recommend this phone. It could have been so much more. I suspect folks who would want all these multimedia features would also want more advanced goodies as well. I also dont like that cool stuff like Cellular TV, XM radio, and most any app will cost you extra, usually in the form of a monthly fee. All that stuff adds up after a while and isnt really worth the money in a phone thats lacking advanced features. Of course, if you dont care about XM radio, TV, streaming video and the others, this is still a darn nice touch phone. Email, IM, and web browsing are all good. Not fantastic but probably enough for most people. If you load up your own videos and music on an SD card you will be able to enjoy those things as well.

Along those lines, if you find touchscreens to be more trouble than they are worth, this one wont change your mind. You cant adjust the size of the keys but they are very accurate. I highly recommend you try one out in the store before you buy. I recommend everyone go to an AT&T store and check it out, just for fun. Have been told by phone geeks that this puppy has a better than average touch screen.

Again I have to say the LG Vu is only good for media enthusiasts. Power users and professionals will need something better. It may be too much for the average Joe. Its certainly out of proportion with any bargain hunters budget.
 

shortylickens

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Also, did you guys like having all those pics?
Were they helpful or should I not waste the bandwidth on BBZZDD.com?
 

AkumaX

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pics.bbzzdd.com was made for AT, so its not a biggie :p

what is your dream phone anyway?
 

pm

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Nice review. Thank you.

I had no problem with the pictures - they looked good to me. Very clear and crisp - when you mentioned the warning in the first paragraph I was ready for much worse. And I had no problem with BBZZDD.com.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: AkumaX
pics.bbzzdd.com was made for AT, so its not a biggie :p

what is your dream phone anyway?
The Nokia 6301 with a MUCH better battery. Slim but useful. I've loved Nokias for a while now. My very first phone was a Moto C333 and I hated it. Went to a Nokia 3300 and despite the silly shape it was actually a darn nice phone. Had much better standard features than any Moto at the time.
Same with the Nokia 6230 I got later. And the Nokia 1221 and 1100 from Tracfone I used briefly before sending them to my mom. Mostly I like Nokia because the basic models still have really good transceivers and battery life. In other brands it seems like you have to go with hi-end models to get those qualities. (Or so I learned from the crappy C333.)

I never wanted to spend the money on a google phone or iphone. I might actually love them but I'll never find out.

It looks like the Voyager is going to be my dream phone for now.
Its like a good combination of the Vu and the Env2. I will be doing a review on both eventually. My only issue is whether or not to waste time taking pictures.
 

AkumaX

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Nokia used to be top-tier for me. I had so many of their older models (5190, 6190, 8290, 8310, 8890!). Then when the Flip-Fone craze went through, Nokia opted not to follow what they thought was "a phase" and lost tons of marketshare. It's sad when they could have been so much more (had they had the $$$). One of the most unique phones they had was the 6820. As funky as it looks, it felt actually quite practical to use.

I'm thinking the new N97 might be your new dream phone ;)
 

onlyCOpunk

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How is the actual touching of the screen though? The last touch screen LG I played with you really had to press on the screen to get a response. Whereas the iPhone just a grace of your finger, which I suppose is why I am very partial to it.
 

shortylickens

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Its much better than my friends iPhone, but since the iPhone can do so much more I dunno if thats a good comparison.

Its better than the Voyager, for sure. Though that could owe to AT&T's better menu system over Verizons.
Beyond that I cant make any more comparisons. Like I said, many nerds I've talked with (any many professional reviewers as well) said its one of the best touch screens on the market.

I liked it, but maybe my standards are low since I'm not as experienced with phones.

Also, these guys always offer quality reviews.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/9292.html
Am suprised they said the touchscreen wasnt great, but they have been known to be pretty tough on all their reviews.
 

cKGunslinger

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After getting this phone this week, I'd like to add a few things I've seen:

Custom ringtones are limited to <300kB and 30 seconds. Any MP3 or sound file larger than that will give you a "File Too Large" error when trying to set as a ringtone. And since the phone actually has a pretty nice-sounding speaker, to get a ringtone under 300kB means that it's a really short tone (~10-15 seconds,) really simplistic (midi-like,) or horribly compressed and distorted. No way to have a real, high-quality song as your ringtone. :(

Transferring files to the phone is a also pain. Admittedly, getting a microSD card (or a transfer cable) would probably negate this. With my old Razr V3 on Verizon, I could just send an email with attachment from my PC to my number and I'd get a text message and the attachment. All for free (unlimited texts.) So far, the only way I found to "quickly" get a file (ringtone, background) to the phone remotely is to find a website that offers these. Have them send you a download message. Read the message, tell the phone that the message contains a URL. Have it decode the URL and open the browser to the site. Click the download link there and it will save it to your phone. Uses internet time. Not exactly cheap or convenient, but maybe that's just how it is these days.

And the fact that the wide-screen QWERTY is *only* usable for texting is kind of lame. My wife bought the phones and had her contacts transferred from the old phone, but I spent 45 minutes entering my contacts by hand with the number keys. 333-88-222-55 that!

Touch works well.
TV is OK, but limited (free trial - probably not worth paying for.)
Requires a custom charger/data cable (not a standard USB mini-plug.)
Screen collects fingerprints.
Doesn't seem to support many colors (~200,000?) Most colorful backgrounds I downloaded looked dithered/banded as hell - like a Windows PC in 256-color mode.


I'll probably keep it, but it's certainly not a perfect device. I always thought my old Razr V3 was a boring phone, but I guess it had quite a few features I took for granted.
 

shortylickens

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Sorry its been such a hassle. I hope you didnt spend more than 50 bucks for it. I also hope you can appreciate how light and thin it is.
I like Nokias much better. They can handle any sort of audio for a ringtone, and they can deal with almost any sort of pic for a wallpaper or contact.

Assuming you got this through AT&T you should probably investigate the nicer HTC phones if possible. They may cost a bit more but they are MUCH better.
 

cKGunslinger

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Yeah, it was only $50. Despite all this, since I use a cell *very* little, I'll probably still end up keeping it. I'm assuming I can get a microSD card, load it up with music, videos, and pictures, and have it all available from the phone?

If I can do that and make phone calls, that's really all I need.
 

QueBert

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Not a bad phone at all, but if you were saying it's "much slimmer" comparing it to the iPhone, it's not. It's thicker than both the 1st gen and 3g ones. But when you get to these type of phones, none are really that much smaller than any other.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Also, did you guys like having all those pics?
Were they helpful or should I not waste the bandwidth on BBZZDD.com?

nice review and the pics are helpful, thanks.

i got the simewhat similar lg versa from verizon and am very happy with it.