quick question about gifts

AznAnarchy99

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Say person A buys person B a gift for say their birthday.
Person B has every right to do whatever they want with that gift right?
For example person A cant come 2-3 years later and be like i want it back?

Now what if person A has the original reciept for it and say person B stole it from their house.
 
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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Say person A buys person B a gift for say their birthday.
Person B has every right to do whatever they want with that gift right?

For the most part, person B could forever be a douchebag, but the gift is theirs.

For example person A cant come 2-3 years later and be like i want it back?

Too bad

Now what if person A has the original reciept for it and say person B stole it from their house.

Person A really has no case especially if it is 2-3 years later. Person B should sue Person A for slander.
 
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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
person B happens to me and person A happens to be my father

sad eh?

That is a fvcked up situation. My post still stands though, except I wouldn't take your dad to court.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
person B happens to me and person A happens to be my father

sad eh?

Also, why couldn't you have just said this? Stupid Person a/b bullsh!t

LOL its 3am im not thinking straight.

The gift was a Sony 27in TV

As for taking to court, hes the one threatening to call the cops on me for every random bs thing. He told me he wants it back or hes going to call the cops and tell them I stole it and show them the original reciept.

 
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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
person B happens to me and person A happens to be my father

sad eh?

Also, why couldn't you have just said this? Stupid Person a/b bullsh!t

LOL its 3am im not thinking straight.

The gift was a Sony 27in TV

As for taking to court, hes the one threatening to call the cops on me for every random bs thing. He told me he wants it back or hes going to call the cops and tell them I stole it and show them the original reciept.

Call his bluff...cops arn't going to waste their time.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
person B happens to me and person A happens to be my father

sad eh?

Also, why couldn't you have just said this? Stupid Person a/b bullsh!t

LOL its 3am im not thinking straight.

The gift was a Sony 27in TV

As for taking to court, hes the one threatening to call the cops on me for every random bs thing. He told me he wants it back or hes going to call the cops and tell them I stole it and show them the original reciept.

Call his bluff...cops arn't going to waste their time.

Thanks for the advice
 

nnnyyy

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Personally, I would have given it back when he first asked. Does the TV have some kind of sentimental value? A normal 27" TV isn't worth a father/son relationship. Do you really need to escalate this and call his bluff?
 

kranky

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Legally, the TV is yours.

But in this case you should give it back cheerfully. He's obviously trying to upset you by demanding its return, so don't give him the satisfaction. Just return it and now he can't say a word.
 

Tobolo

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Yeah but, no offense, it sounds like if you give it back he may try to charge you for rent.
 

cker

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Yeah. Sometimes there's no 'good' way out of a situation, but the least bad way to get out of it might be just to call the TV a loss and let it go. Playing a game of "let's see what the cops do" is not really a fun way to spend an afternoon. Maybe they'll walk away from it, maybe they'll arrest you. People in here (myself included) don't know what will happen in that situation.

Legally, yeah, it's yours. Whether you can prove it -- that's another question. What it would cost you (and, incidentally, him) to handle it in the courts, would probably be quite a bit more than the cost of just buying another 27" TV.

I am 100% certain there is a lot more to this story than this situation -- I mean, it sounds to me like this isn't just about a television.
 

FoBoT

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oh teenage drama, nevermind

come back and post in 5-10 years when you are grown up and living on your own
 

lokiju

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Originally posted by: kranky
Legally, the TV is yours.

But in this case you should give it back cheerfully. He's obviously trying to upset you by demanding its return, so don't give him the satisfaction. Just return it and now he can't say a word.

I agree.

TV's are to damn cheap these days to get stressed over IMO.

 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
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oh teenage drama, nevermind

come back and post in 5-10 years when you are grown up and living on your own

it sounds like he's on his own.

but yeah, OP, we need more details if you are going to do your thinking.
 

acemcmac

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I'd just give it back. You can have a new 27" tv for a few hundred bucks.... (or $60 at Best Buy on sale like I did) not like there's anything on TV anyway. If you're living at home and haven't graduated college yet, you're SOL and really really should just give it back. I am also sure that there's more to the story.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Say person A buys person B a gift for say their birthday.
Person B has every right to do whatever they want with that gift right?
For example person A cant come 2-3 years later and be like i want it back?

Now what if person A has the original reciept for it and say person B stole it from their house.

Take it to civil court if it's such a big deal.
 

dullard

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You need to watch more of those court shows on TV. This issue comes up in just about every case.

If it was a gift, then person B can do whatever he/she wants to do. Person A has no legal rights. Of course, person A will try to lie in court and say it wasn't a gift. However, person A must prove that in court. And person A has an uphill battle. If person A didn't give it to person B, why does person B have it in his/her possession? Plus, person B will testify in court that it was a gift.

The result is person A vs. person B's word but person B has one piece of physical evidence in his/her favor (the fact that he/she actually has the item). Thus person A needs to have strong evidence that it wasn't a gift. Strong evidence could include a written contract or payments from person B to person A for the loan of the item. A receipt is not strong evidence because person B confirms that person A bought it. Who bought it is not what is being disputed. This is especially true because the receipt date is often a week before person B's birthday/Christmas, even more reason to think it was a gift.

But in reality, why all the fuss. A used 27" TV is worth very little. Don't sweat it. Let person A sue, you'll probably win. And if you lose, you lose something that is virtually worthless.

Edit: I just saw that it was your father. Why are you (and your father) distroying your relationship over a worthless item? What is more valuable to you, your relationship with him or a stupid TV?
 

ArchCenturion

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Give your dad the Fvcking TV, then buy your own projector clear off a wall of your room, and tell him to Fvck off when he wants to watch a movie in your new theater.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
person B happens to me and person A happens to be my father

sad eh?

My Dad effectively did the same thing to me when I moved out. He "reclaimed" a number of things that were given to me for birthdays and Christmases, but because he had become accustomed to using them for his own needs, they just became his.

My Dad was an ass when it came to things like that. Stuff > People FTL.