Quick photoshop question

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Lifer
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So I'm trying to make this poster. I've got a sunburst, and I want to insert a pic of my friend into the starburst. I dont want the bottom of him to be visible over the burst, but I want the top of his head to protude over it.

How? Something to do with layers probably, something I have no clue at all about.
 

stev0

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err.. can you post an example, imo, it would be a bit easer to explain :)
 

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Create a new layer for your friend's pic. Add a mask to that layer, and select "reveal all". Make a selection that includes everything OUTSIDE the starburst. Using that selection, select the mask for the layer with your frend's pic, and fill the selection with black.
 

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Cant really explain it any other way, dont really have a way to post an example. I've got two pics I want to combine.

One is just a sunburst, thats it.

The other is a picture of my friends head and neck.

I want to have his neck partially occluded by the burst so he comes up from behind it. But I want the top of his head to stick out the top and over the burst.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: Tyler
Create a new layer for your friend's pic. Add a mask to that layer, and select "reveal all". Make a selection that includes everything OUTSIDE the starburst. Using that selection, select the mask for the layer with your frend's pic, and fill the selection with black.

yeah... or make a copy of the layer your friend is on. wax the head out of one layer, put that below the sunburst layer, take everything else out of the other layer but his head, put that on top of the sunburst layer.

ehh i'm sure that is what notfred was saying, i just dumbified it. :)

edit: tyler
 

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Lifer
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Hehe I'm almost following you guys, but I dont know what waxing is, and I got no idea how to select the mask for the layer of my friends pic. I think I can handle filling it with black though...

 

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Originally posted by: BD2003
and I got no idea how to select the mask for the layer of my friends pic.

Click on the little picture of it in the "layers" window.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Hehe I'm almost following you guys, but I dont know what waxing is, and I got no idea how to select the mask for the layer of my friends pic. I think I can handle filling it with black though...

heh by wax i ment chop it out.

here is what i would do.

- make two copies of your friends layer.
- on one, go into quickmask mode, and mask around his head, fill it in with the paint bucket, then go back to regular mode, his head will be selected. you want to inverse the selection (menu bar > select > inverse or shift+ctrl+i on a pc). this will then have everything in that layer besides his head selected. hit your delete key. pull that layer on top of the sunburst layer.
- take the second layer and put it below the sunburst layer. if you don't move anything around, you shouldn't have to do anything with the layer below the sunburst.
 

dugweb

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why dont you just go 'filter>render>lens flare'

they look real good... if you want to do that, just make a new layer, and fill it all with black... then render the lens flare, and change the blending properties to screen.
 

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I'm just dead confused. I dont nearly know enough about layers and photoshop to have half a clue as to what most of you are talking about.

I'm sure when I finally do get it, itll be one of those head slapping OHHHHHH moments....
 

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Trying to understand a little more here...

Do I need to make a new image and use it as a workspace, cause right now I'm trying to pull his head into the current sunburst pic.
What command do I use exactly to make the layers?
 

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Lifer
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Hehe nah its not a literal sunburst, its just a black and white sharp edged "sunburst" outline.
 

notfred

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Screenshot.

The blue squiggles are your friend's face, you can see that they dont extend past the edges of the "Z" shaped object (the starburst)

Notice in the layers palette, that the selected layer has two boxes, the blue squiggles on the left, and a black and white "Z" shaped object on the right. That box on the right is the layer mask. Anything that's white in that layer will be visible, anything that's black in that layer will be hidden, which is why the blue squiggles are only visible insid ethe "Z" shape.
 

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Ahh, that makes a lot of sense.

Although I just kinda figured out the ghetto way to do it. Just pasted the pic over the sunburst and used the history brush to remove him from under the burst.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Ahh, that makes a lot of sense.

Although I just kinda figured out the ghetto way to do it. Just pasted the pic over the sunburst and used the history brush to remove him from under the burst.

If you used my method, you can move your friends face around, and it'll still end at the edges of the starburst. Using your method, you can no longer adjust the position of his face.
 

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Originally posted by: BD2003
So I'm trying to make this poster. I've got a sunburst, and I want to insert a pic of my friend into the starburst. I dont want the bottom of him to be visible over the burst, but I want the top of his head to protude over it.

How? Something to do with layers probably, something I have no clue at all about.

Extract his head and place on a new layer.....

 

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Lifer
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Ok so let me get this straight.

I make a blank white pic to use as workspace.
I take my friends pic, select only the part I want to use (his head and neck), and make one layer out of that.
Make a second layer using the inside of the sunburst.
Make a mask over my friends layer that exactly matches the layer of the sunburst?
Combine and voila?
 

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Lifer
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Hehe I will, but I'm only using a temporary head for now until my friend uploads the one I'm going to use.

Its an inside joke, but probably still funny nonetheless. You've just got to know the sanch to understand.
 

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OK, almost sorta there. I've got the plain white background, and one layer with my friend and the other layer is just the sunburst. Now what?
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: BD2003
OK, almost sorta there. I've got the plain white background, and one layer with my friend and the other layer is just the sunburst. Now what?

Have the sunburst active. using the magic wand, click anywhere outside the sunburst. This should select everything except the sunburst (you will see a little dotted line around the sunburst and the edge of the image).

Now make the layer with your friend's picture active. Go to Layer > Add Layer Mask > Reveal all.

Then, click on the mask in the layer's window (will jsut be a white box to the right of your friend's face).

Now, you should still have the selection we made earlier (the one that was everything but the sunburst). If you don't still have that selected, go back and select it again.

Now, go to Edit > Fill And select "black" from the "use" dropdown menu. Hit "ok" and you should no longer see any of your friend that extends psat the edges of the sunburst.

If you want to extend the visible area of the mask, so that you can see your friend outside the sunburst, simply take the paintbrush (or any other tool) select white as your foreground color, and with the mask selected, draw on the image wherever you want it to be visible.
 

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Lifer
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Hmm, I'm following you fine, I just dont think I have the images set up in the right place at the right time for this to all come together and start working. Both layers are present in the blank pic, and I can move them both around independently, but one is always on top of the other. Am I getting ahead of myself?
 

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Hmm, I'm following you fine, I just dont think I have the images set up in the right place at the right time for this to all come together and start working. Both layers are present in the blank pic, and I can move them both around independently, but one is always on top of the other. Am I getting ahead of myself?

you can drag the order of layers in the layers window. If you want one to be on top of the other, drag it above the other one in the layers window.
 

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Lifer
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Ok, just to be positive, what exactly do I want the two layers to consist of? I have one of my friend thats just his head, the part I want to use with the rest around it transparent. Good or bad?

The other layer should be the full square sunburst background and all?