Quick LCD Question

[skypilot]

Hey all I need a little advice.

I need my LCD (CMV CT-522a) to not scale when I lower the resolution of the windows desktop. It is a 1024x768 native screen, and I would like for it to just have a large black border when I turn the desktop down to 800x600. Is there software that makes this possible? I've tried resizing in powerstrip and gone through all the options in the LCD's menu, but can't find anything.

Let me know if you all have any ideas!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I think you're looking in the wrong place, your video card drivers should offer an option to do that.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Good question - I would like to know how to do the same. I'm not sure how to get it done on my ATI card.

 

[skypilot]

no video card option for that... i checked.

 

[housecat]

Nvidia allows many options for this, scaled, black bars, and a couple more options. Nvidia's scaling is superb.. I cant even tell when its out of native on my 2005fpw. Needless to say i'm not incredibly anal, i have a slight backlight problem on my LCD that doesnt bother me a bit, and i never was one to get caught up on teh whole "trilinear filtering" hocus pocus that went on when nvidia was "cheating!!!!" and now i still dont care that ati is cheating..
i dont examine the stretched resolutions for slight imperfections.

i can tell you though, that if you play games you wont notice the difference unless your taking screenshots and zooming in.

Nvidia's drivers have always been the gold standard and they are in this case also.

 

[housecat]

i took the time to lookup the choices for you on my GF4 4200 (forceware 66.93): display adapter scaling, centered output, monitor scaling and fixed aspect ratio scaling.

i use monitor scaling which allows the LCD to do it its own way. display adapter scaling lets your GPU do it (i think this is better but seems to hurt performance more as it scales EVERY resolution to 1680x1050, or your native res whatever that may be)...

 

[Auric]

Centered output should do it. But I am curious if NVIDIA's scaling options are available with an analog FPD.

 

[Viper96720]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Good question - I would like to know how to do the same. I'm not sure how to get it done on my ATI card.

advanced display settings then go to displays. Click on the monitor and there's a scale image to panel size button leave unchecked. Then just make sure your osd doesn't have a scale image option also. In my case my osd does. When running non-native I can pick normal or full size image.

 

[Auric]

With ATI, the aforementioned scale image option is under the FPD button on the Displays tab. 'tis my understanding that if using an analog FPD it shows as a Monitor, for which there is no such option. In any case, at some resolutions it will scale anyway. 1280x720,768,960 and 960x720 are the only available resolutions to center on my 1280x1024 max panel. Sadly, 1024x768 still scales up and additionally stretches vertically with full-screen 3D.

 

[skypilot]

Hmm.... my panel is analog in only. I am going to get the new Nvidia drivers and see if there is an option, although I am doubting it with my non-DVI connection at this point.

Crap.

 

[skypilot]

update: No scaling option in a non-DVI panel. Is there any third party software that may do this for an analog connection? Or hacked drivers?

 

[skypilot]

bump?

 

[skypilot]

anyone have any idea?

 

[housecat]

I dont think there is a way when not using the DVI connection. Which is strange but its hard for it to detect a flatpanel without using the DVI. The only thing I can come up with is make sure that the correct drivers are installed for your flatpanel and check the driver settings to see if it recognizes it. You might then be able to select adapter scaling.

I think it might be hard getting it to recognize a LCD without that done properly, but it might not easily be done if the flatpanel drivers are not done correctly and dont let it know it is a LCD when running through the analog.

One thing nice about Nvidia drivers is the ability to add custom resolutions within the drivers. So they are then available for Windows settings and within all games.
I added 960x600 (my chosen widescreen equivalent to 800x600, its a nice bump up from that one and renders more so I deem it probably not too far off performance-wise from my old 4:3 mainstay of 1024x768). I use a GF4 4200 on a 1700+ so its not exactly a powerhouse in Doom3@1680x1050.

Nvidia rocks the competition.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Auric
With ATI, the aforementioned scale image option is under the FPD button on the Displays tab. 'tis my understanding that if using an analog FPD it shows as a Monitor, for which there is no such option. In any case, at some resolutions it will scale anyway. 1280x720,768,960 and 960x720 are the only available resolutions to center on my 1280x1024 max panel. Sadly, 1024x768 still scales up and additionally stretches vertically with full-screen 3D.

Awesome - works like a charm. Now if only there was such an option in the CCC (I have sinced uninstalled the 4.11's with the CCC and installed the 4.12's with the control panel).

Thanks!