questons regarding Project Management

[rookie1010]

Hello

i had a few questions regarding project managemtn. I was interested in getting in project management

I have got over 5 years of experience in the telecoms sector.i was wondering if it will enable me to secure management positions in telecoms and consequently rise in the hierarchy

I was contemplating doing contract jobs in the next year. do you think it would be possible for me to do PRINCE2 training while doing contract positions or would i have to set some time aside and immerse myself in full time PRINCE2 education.

 

[Analog]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1714906&enterthread=y&arctab=y

Oh, that was you too.

 

[rookie1010]

yes dude, that is/was me

that was me, but i cant add to the old thread. i think that's because the post is too odl and is archived

 

[EagleKeeper]

5 years should NOT get you into a management position unless you have connections and/or a specialized degree/education.

 

[boggsie]

Originally posted by: rookie1010
Hello

i had a few questions regarding project managemtn. I was interested in getting in project management

I have got over 5 years of experience in the telecoms sector.i was wondering if it will enable me to secure management positions in telecoms and consequently rise in the hierarchy

I was contemplating doing contract jobs in the next year. do you think it would be possible for me to do PRINCE2 training while doing contract positions or would i have to set some time aside and immerse myself in full time PRINCE2 education.

This depends on what type of contract work you anticipate doing. If you have the patience and time, get the certification first. Once you have the certification, you can contract at (perhaps) a higher rate and your present company may be kind enough to pay for some of the classes, etc. while you are studying. Most contracting companies do not offer this type of benefit.

 

[rookie1010]

thanks for the replies

so getting into management positions is all about connections?

what do you mean by a specialised degree. i have masters in telecoms.

i am planning to do some contract work either in wireless comms or perhaps embedded programming. i was wondering if i could do evening study and then sit for the certification examination, or are PMI/PRINCE2 intensive and classromm participation is a must?

 

[UTmtnbiker]

I didn't look at your old thread, but if it's not in there, I would suggest getting your PMP cert if you can. This will not only open a lot of doors, but many larger companies (and I'm guessing telecoms) look for that PMP after your name before they'll even consider you for a project mgmt position.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: UTmtnbiker
I didn't look at your old thread, but if it's not in there, I would suggest getting your PMP cert if you can. This will not only open a lot of doors, but many larger companies (and I'm guessing telecoms) look for that PMP after your name before they'll even consider you for a project mgmt position.

The thing is, it's circular logic. To get the cert, you have to have 7500 hours of "on the job" PM experience recorded and signed off on along with 60 months of PM experience to even sit for the exam.

You can't get the PMP without being a PM first.

You can get the CAPM though without the experience and hours by just sitting for the classes and passing the exam.

That's what you'd have to do to get your foot in the door.

 

[boggsie]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: UTmtnbiker
I didn't look at your old thread, but if it's not in there, I would suggest getting your PMP cert if you can. This will not only open a lot of doors, but many larger companies (and I'm guessing telecoms) look for that PMP after your name before they'll even consider you for a project mgmt position.

The thing is, it's circular logic. To get the cert, you have to have 7500 hours of "on the job" PM experience recorded and signed off on along with 60 months of PM experience to even sit for the exam.

You can't get the PMP without being a PM first.

You can get the CAPM though without the experience and hours by just sitting for the classes and passing the exam.

That's what you'd have to do to get your foot in the door.

And get this, I know a few H1b folks (with no PM experience, whatsoever) that listed all of their references in India - who at PMP speaks Tamil so they can follow-up and check references?

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
5 years should NOT get you into a management position unless you have connections and/or a specialized degree/education.

Took me about 20 months. *shrug*

 

[rookie1010]

thans for the replies guys

so what i could do is do the CAPM and then apply for PM jobs and then do the PMP?

And get this, I know a few H1b folks (with no PM experience, whatsoever) that listed all of their references in India - who at PMP speaks Tamil so they can follow-up and check references?

so the PMP guys check with your employers to see if you have got PM experience.

what i meant was i can sit for the classes while doing a contract, and then try for a second contract which has PM related activities

i guess the Certified Associate in Project Management is a subset of PMP. is there a similar issue with PRINCE2, wheer wone needs to have x number of years of work ex before he/she can site for the PRINCE2 exams

 

[rookie1010]

The thing is, it's circular logic. To get the cert, you have to have 7500 hours of "on the job" PM experience recorded and signed off on along with 60 months of PM experience to even sit for the exam.

You can't get the PMP without being a PM first.

You can get the CAPM though without the experience and hours by just sitting for the classes and passing the exam.

That's what you'd have to do to get your foot in the door.

some one told me that it is 60 months of work experience

in the case of the pmp you dont need to have 5 years as a project manager but you need to have worked as part of a project or in projects during your experience years.