Questions on BSG

[Homerboy]

#1) Are all the "battlestar galactians" from ONE planet? Or are the colonies separate planets? I'm getting conflicting results on this question.

#2) is this past present or future tense?

#3) Is the 13th colony the actual SETTLERS of earth or did they come upon Earth already inhabited?

 

[K1052]

#1) Different planets and that causes friction/issues in several episodes

#2) not specified

#3) unknown yet

 

[Kev]

1) separate planets
2) we'll find out when they reach earth
3) I think they are settlers of earth

 

[Homerboy]

do you guys have proof of #1? Where do they say "different planets" they only say "different colonies" which could easily be understood as separate countries/continents as we have.

 

[yllus]

#1) No, each colony is from a different planet and the crew is made up of members of all of the colonies. Interestingly, most of the officer corps tends to be from the wealthier colonies like Caprica, while the non-commissioned officers and grunts tend to come from the largely non-industrial colonies. The season 3 episode "Dirty Hands" delves into the political angle of this.

#2) Unknown. Likely future.

#3) I'm a little too tired to back this up, but I believe that the 12 colonies were first banished or otherwise forced to leave Earth, the birthplace of mankind. They eventually spread to the twelve colonies, and it's likely that a massive war destroyed the population of Earth in the meantime. I believe the idea is that the people of the 13th colony are now extinct.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
do you guys have proof of #1? Where do they say "different planets" they only say "different colonies" which could easily be understood as separate countries/continents as we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Colonies

Executive producer Ron Moore has stated that as a nod to the original series, each of the Twelve Colonies is one of 12 planets in a single solar system.

 

[Queasy]

In regards to #2...anyone think the use of "All Along the Watchtower" might hint at the time this is set in?

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Homerboy
do you guys have proof of #1? Where do they say "different planets" they only say "different colonies" which could easily be understood as separate countries/continents as we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Colonies

Executive producer Ron Moore has stated that as a nod to the original series, each of the Twelve Colonies is one of 12 planets in a single solar system.

that doesn't make sense, how could you have 12 habitable planets in a single solar system?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: yllus

#3) I'm a little too tired to back this up, but I believe that the 12 colonies were first banished or otherwise forced to leave Earth, the birthplace of mankind. They eventually spread to the twelve colonies, and it's likely that a massive war destroyed the population of Earth in the meantime. I believe the idea is that the people of the 13th colony are now extinct.

Supposedly they originated from Kobol, hence the 12 Colonies of Kobol.

13th colony ran off to Earth, fate unknown.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Queasy
In regards to #2...anyone think the use of "All Along the Watchtower" might hint at the time this is set in?

All the data I have on that is that exec producer Moore has stated that the people who heard the song have no idea who or where it came from.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Homerboy
do you guys have proof of #1? Where do they say "different planets" they only say "different colonies" which could easily be understood as separate countries/continents as we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Colonies

Executive producer Ron Moore has stated that as a nod to the original series, each of the Twelve Colonies is one of 12 planets in a single solar system.

that doesn't make sense, how could you have 12 habitable planets in a single solar system?

They have found some fairly large solar systems out there, IIRC. Unlikely but conceivable I guess and that would be the reason they settled the system in the first place after leaving Kobol.

 

[So]

Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.
2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...
3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Homerboy
do you guys have proof of #1? Where do they say "different planets" they only say "different colonies" which could easily be understood as separate countries/continents as we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Colonies

Executive producer Ron Moore has stated that as a nod to the original series, each of the Twelve Colonies is one of 12 planets in a single solar system.

that doesn't make sense, how could you have 12 habitable planets in a single solar system?

Thanks for the "proof"
I agreed that that is lame... 12 planets. Don't see why it couldn't/should't just be 1 planet with 12 colonies.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: So
Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.
2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...
3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

Well they did nuke the crap out of the (12) planet(s) it seems. So would they even be habitable if the Cylons did leave?

If Caprica was one planet, thats awfully arrogant of the "elite social class" to name the new planet "New Caprica "

 

[Zolty]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Homerboy
do you guys have proof of #1? Where do they say "different planets" they only say "different colonies" which could easily be understood as separate countries/continents as we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Colonies

Executive producer Ron Moore has stated that as a nod to the original series, each of the Twelve Colonies is one of 12 planets in a single solar system.

From that same link

In the new series, it is unclear whether all the colonies were in one solar system, or located in multiple systems, however its normally assumed they are in the same system.

It is highly unlikely that 12 habitable planets could develop in a single star system in the real world as their orbits would be very close and thus destabilize each other.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: So
Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.
2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...
3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

1) Eventually crushed or scattered

2) unknown, though they seem to be using up a lot of Basestars chasing the Colonial fleet to be camping out back at the old system

3) too much risk for little payoff

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Zolty

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Homerboy
do you guys have proof of #1? Where do they say "different planets" they only say "different colonies" which could easily be understood as separate countries/continents as we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Colonies

Executive producer Ron Moore has stated that as a nod to the original series, each of the Twelve Colonies is one of 12 planets in a single solar system.

From that same link

In the new series, it is unclear whether all the colonies were in one solar system, or located in multiple systems, however its normally assumed they are in the same system.

It is highly unlikely that 12 habitable planets could develop in a single star system in the real world as their orbits would be very close and thus destabilize each other.

Some could be habitable moons as well. It is pretty clearly established in the series that the colonies are different celestial bodies.

 

[Zolty]

Originally posted by: So
Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.

They saved a couple raptors full of the human resistance.

2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...

unknown at this point

3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

They had a raptor waiting for signals at all times, they did not land on the planet for fear the cylons would retaliate on the populace.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: So
Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.
2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...
3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

Well they did nuke the crap out of the (12) planet(s) it seems. So would they even be habitable if the Cylons did leave?

If Caprica was one planet, thats awfully arrogant of the "elite social class" to name the new planet "New Caprica "

1. Caprica was the Capital of the colonies. It'd be like the US being destroyed and the survivors landing in Puerto Rico and naming it "New Washington" instead of "The New United States"

2. You greatly overestimate the destructive power of nuclear war, IMO. Yes, nuclear war would destroy all cities and most of the population but it would take a lot more nukes than depicted in the show (and the damage depicted during the "on caprica" scenes) to make a planet completely uninhabitable. Given the great capital wealth in the colonies, it seems that it'd be a better bet than starting all over on a planet that was little better to live on.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: So
Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.
2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...
3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

Well they did nuke the crap out of the (12) planet(s) it seems. So would they even be habitable if the Cylons did leave?

If Caprica was one planet, thats awfully arrogant of the "elite social class" to name the new planet "New Caprica "

1. Caprica was the Capital of the colonies. It'd be like the US being destroyed and the survivors landing in Puerto Rico and naming it "New Washington" instead of "The New United States"

2. You greatly overestimate the destructive power of nuclear war, IMO. Yes, nuclear war would destroy all cities and most of the population but it would take a lot more nukes than depicted in the show (and the damage depicted during the "on caprica" scenes) to make a planet completely uninhabitable. Given the great capital wealth in the colonies, it seems that it'd be a better bet than starting all over on a planet that was little better to live on.

The defense infrastructure was shot. The safety of the Colonial fleet depended on the Cylons not knowing where they were all the time and running when found.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Zolty

Originally posted by: So
Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.

They saved a couple raptors full of the human resistance.

2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...

unknown at this point

3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

They had a raptor waiting for signals at all times, they did not land on the planet for fear the cylons would retaliate on the populace.

A couple of raptors can't have been the entire human resistance, can it?

On (3) I meant send a raptor back to the original 12 colonies, not NC.

 

[Homerboy]

so the Cylons nuke 12 planets and 40K people survive? Thats pretty freaking thorough job. And with all the ships able to go FTL or whatever its called, they didn't have other ships "out there" doing "Kessel Runs" or whatever?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: So
Here are MY questions:

1. What happened to the resistance on Caprica (and presumably the other colonies)? It seems like more than 40k humans would have survived the cylon attack.
2. Did the Cylons actually leave the colonies like they claimed at the end of season 2? Assuming 1. and 2. are true, then the entire show is pointless...
3. Why didn't the colonial fleet send a scout back to the colonies during their year on New Caprica to see check on the colonies?

Well they did nuke the crap out of the (12) planet(s) it seems. So would they even be habitable if the Cylons did leave?

If Caprica was one planet, thats awfully arrogant of the "elite social class" to name the new planet "New Caprica "

1. Caprica was the Capital of the colonies. It'd be like the US being destroyed and the survivors landing in Puerto Rico and naming it "New Washington" instead of "The New United States"

2. You greatly overestimate the destructive power of nuclear war, IMO. Yes, nuclear war would destroy all cities and most of the population but it would take a lot more nukes than depicted in the show (and the damage depicted during the "on caprica" scenes) to make a planet completely uninhabitable. Given the great capital wealth in the colonies, it seems that it'd be a better bet than starting all over on a planet that was little better to live on.

The defense infrastructure was shot. The safety of the Colonial fleet depended on the Cylons not knowing where they were all the time and running when found.

Hmm...point.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
so the Cylons nuke 12 planets and 40K people survive? Thats pretty freaking thorough job. And with all the ships able to go FTL or whatever its called, they didn't have other ships "out there" doing "Kessel Runs" or whatever?

Not all the ships were FTL capable as noted in the original miniseries when they had to leave the sublight ships behind. Obviously a number of other vessels fell prey to Cylon attacks before they were able to convoy or escape.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
so the Cylons nuke 12 planets and 40K people survive? Thats pretty freaking thorough job. And with all the ships able to go FTL or whatever its called, they didn't have other ships "out there" doing "Kessel Runs" or whatever?

This is my point. Only 40k people survived On ships but the existence of a caprican resistance demonstrates that at least that many survived in the countryside on each planet. Sure the cylons could rule the plantes and stop them from advancing substantially, but they could easily hide in the hills and live as roaming bands for years...