Questions about theoretical set up - audio

JJChicken

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Hey super smart peeps :)

I am a DJ and the place I spin at are really tight asses so their mixer is really shit. I was thinking of bringing my own mixer but I don't want to unplug theirs.

So basically, the current setup is that two CD players route into their mixer via RCA cables and the mixer goes into the soundsystem.

What I'm thinking of doing is routing the two CD players into my own, high quality mixer then using RCA outs in my mixer to connect into the main house mixer which then connects into the speaker system.

Would the interposition of my mixer cause the signal to lose strength or quality (assume my mixer is top of the line)...because the current mixer is already clipping without me sending the volume too high...

And would the use of my mixer act as a smart way to amplify the signal such that I can get a louder sound in the main mixer (by increasing the gain in my mixer without clipping) by increasing the base sound going through...or will it screw things over because maybe line inputs are expected to be at a particular level...

Any thoughts???

Sorry if I didn't make much sense, typing from my phone :(
 

Railgun

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If the line level is the same from the cd players as it will be from your mixer, I would assume that it will still clip. If you're already going to disconnect the CD players, why not just connect the outputs as well?
 

JJChicken

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If the line level is the same from the cd players as it will be from your mixer, I would assume that it will still clip. If you're already going to disconnect the CD players, why not just connect the outputs as well?

Okay thanks. What if a song is soft and I amplify it with my mixer, will it still clip ?

I don't want to connect the outputs because the main mixer has a mic attached plus I don't want to create a fuss. Plus the music can't stop so I can't unplug the main mixer.
 

Railgun

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Again, depends on where the clip is occuring.

Why would the music stop? You're disconnecting their players...I would assume you're making all the connections before you start your set?
 

exar333

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I know it might not do any good, but I might tell them if they don't fix their clipping, they will probably toast their speakers over time. I am no mixing expert, but I usually find 70-80% of clipping is because of poor amps or the like (although sometimes it is really crappy speakers).
 

JJChicken

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I know it might not do any good, but I might tell them if they don't fix their clipping, they will probably toast their speakers over time. I am no mixing expert, but I usually find 70-80% of clipping is because of poor amps or the like (although sometimes it is really crappy speakers).

They easily make 5-10k on Fridays and Saturdays, but no way in the world would upgrade their sound system...that's management for you :thumbsup:
 

JJChicken

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Again, depends on where the clip is occuring.

Why would the music stop? You're disconnecting their players...I would assume you're making all the connections before you start your set?

I would start my set after taking on from someone, so if I unplug the outputs, the music will stop.
 

sdifox

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Why take on the liability at all. Do not plug in your gear at all or they'll blame you when the tweeters burn out.
 

Humpy

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In my small experience from the live band side of things, it's probably not worth the effort to change things up on the house system mid night. Will management or the patrons be able to tell you're using a better mixer? Maybe, probably not. They will for sure be able to tell if something is fucked up, the music stops, or something breaks. Then it's all on you.

Show up, do your thing, smile, get paid.