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Questions About OCing the 3000+

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GML3G0

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OK, I was gonna get the 3200+ but Monarchcomputer has jacked up the prices. grrr. So I guess I'll have to stick with the 3000+ Winchester. I don't want the temperature on my CPU going above 53C, but under 50C is preferred. I want the RAM at 1:1, I don't want to have to run dividers. How far do you think I can bring the FSB to a) without a vcore raise? b) with a vcore raise? You think it will be easy for me to reach 2.2GHz? How about 2.4GHz? All with Stock HSF.
And lastly, will the 3000+ bottleneck my Xtasy X800 XT? How about with the CPU overclock?

Thanks a lot.

Note: What's in my sig is what I plan to buy if that helps with the question
 
I really don't know much about overcloccking and such, but you should be able to reach 2.2 GHz easily. Without a raise in vcore, you should be able to get the FSB up to around 220 (really depends on the batch). Most winchester core chips (3000+, 3200+, and 3500+) all seem to top out around 2.6 GHz. If you are lucky, you may be able to get to 2.8 Ghz, if not, you may only get to 2.2-2.4 GHz...

In many games, the graphics card is very important and it will probably be the bottleneck in some graphics intensive games (Doom3, etc.) at stock speeds.

As I mentioned before, I am a n00b to overclocking. Much of the info I have is what I have researched and found out from others on the forums.
 
Well, the way I see it, is I can save almost $100 by getting the 3000+ and not getting another HSF and AS5. The X800 XT should last me a few years. If a laptop with 1.2GHz GeForce2GO 32MB 2 pipeline card and 256MB RAM has lasted me since 2001, I'm sure this card will last a good 3 years or more for me at the very least. I fear that the CPU is the bottleneck but even 50FPS in a game with full settings is very good. The card is capable of more, but the CPU is limiting it. So for this reason, I can just get a FX-55 or a better CPU in a year or two and that would still be a pretty good system. My main concern is upgradability. A small price to pay to ensure upgradability. After all, it shouldn't stutter right? And if it's overclocked, it's better for me.
 
Originally posted by: GML3G0
OK, I was gonna get the 3200+ but Monarchcomputer has jacked up the prices. grrr. So I guess I'll have to stick with the 3000+ Winchester. I don't want the temperature on my CPU going above 53C, but under 50C is preferred. I want the RAM at 1:1, I don't want to have to run dividers. How far do you think I can bring the FSB to a) without a vcore raise? b) with a vcore raise? You think it will be easy for me to reach 2.2GHz? How about 2.4GHz? All with Stock HSF.
And lastly, will the 3000+ bottleneck my Xtasy X800 XT? How about with the CPU overclock?

Thanks a lot.

Note: What's in my sig is what I plan to buy if that helps with the question
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quite picky, are we 😀 j/k
welll...#1. go with an nvidia chipset. NF3 Ultra. check out the MSI K8N Neo2. one of the best socket 939 boards out there.
#2. with that board, you can set a temp where the CPU fan speeds up to keep the proc cool. For instance, i set mine at 53C also, and it never goes above 53C. 😀 stays pretty quiet also.
#3. dividers affect performance almost nil on the 64 processors. if you really want to spend the extra money on ram, go for it but..
#4. im not sure about w/o a vcore raise, but if u raise it just a bit, to like 1.45 you will be able to get up to 2.4GHz. thats what I am at, and like i said my temps are always below 53C.
#5. im using stock HSF with AS5.
#6. no, overclocked to 2.4GHz your CPU will not be a big bottleneck. Stock it will slow things down a bit, but we are talking already goin 80FPS and dropping to 65FPS lol.
hope this helped, feel free to PM me with more ?'s
nick
 
check out mwave they have retail cpu at better prices in some case than monarch...I like both places
 
I got a 3000/neo2 combo from monarch and the cpu runs at 2.43ghz at default voltage.

I think 3000 cpus can go 2.4ghz pretty easily.
 
I have a MSI Neo2-FIR (K8T800pro) with a winny3000+ and was only able to get to 2.0GHz stable. I'm not sure if I need to add more vcore but i am hesitant to do this. If I go up to 223FSB it looks as tho my 9600pro wiggs out when attempting 3D apps and trys to save itself but the system locks and I have to hard boot.

I halfway think its something to do with the AGP lock but people say the K8T800pro's locks should work just fine. I have no way of telling if the AGP bus speed is correct tho. *shrug*
 
Originally posted by: Shinare
I have a MSI Neo2-FIR (K8T800pro) with a winny3000+ and was only able to get to 2.0GHz stable. I'm not sure if I need to add more vcore but i am hesitant to do this. If I go up to 223FSB it looks as tho my 9600pro wiggs out when attempting 3D apps and trys to save itself but the system locks and I have to hard boot.

I halfway think its something to do with the AGP lock but people say the K8T800pro's locks should work just fine. I have no way of telling if the AGP bus speed is correct tho. *shrug*
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if your PCI bus speed is 66 in the bios, it automaticly locks the AGP to its default speeds. no worries. are you sure you lowered your HTT multiplier to 4x? dont press enter on it in the BIOS, just highlight it and use the +/- keys to lower the value.
the equation goes like this: htt multixhtt bus=bus i dont know the name of "x"

"x" should always be under 1080. so with a 4x multi, 4*270=1080. so if you want to go over 270htt, lower the multi to 3x. its all about equations man 😀
 
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