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Questions about iPhone and Androids

Ime

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Here's an update on my original post:

Just wanted to post a follow-up.

The wife and I both got the black iPhone 4S 32GB. In hindsight I should have gotten the 16GB for myself. My wife has tons of music to fill up her phone, I was planning to watch movies but the small screen hurts my eyes after a period of time.

After comparing phone sizes at the Verizon store I realized a 4" screen is the largest I want the screen to be without the phone feeling too large in my hand. All the Android phones that I was interested in were just too big in my hand. I also still have bad memories of the forced android upgrade on the MyTouch 3G and how it slowed my phone to a crawl even after a factory reset.

The iPhone is nice and responsive, and it runs happily along on WiFi which I'm on 90% of the time. The 3G data speed is slower than my old Tmobile phone, I don't know if that's Verizon or the phone though. I also get better coverage and fewer dropped calls on Verizon as opposed to Tmobile. Most notably my new phone gets coverage inside buildings were my old Tmo phone would not.

Things I miss from Android? The biggest thing is Google Navigation. I used it all the time and I almost returned my iPhone just for that reason alone. I eventually found a free app that works almost as well, but I still miss the awesomeness of Google Navigation. Another thing I miss is the native Gmail App. I didn't see the iOS one until after Google pulled it, so I'm still using the integrated iphone email.

Overall, I'd say I like my iPhone more than my old Android phone with a couple of caveats.
1) Verizon is more expensive then Tmo, but the coverage is much better for me personally.
2) I'm not convinced I'll stick with iOS long term. I might go back to Android in 20 months.
3) If I go back to Android I'm definitely getting a "Google" phone.



Original Post starts here:
Just a quick why I'm asking: I have an original T-Mobile MyTouch 3G, and am switching to Verizon (better coverage in my area). My wife is switching from Android to iPhone for 1 reason, iTunes. As for me, I can't seem to decide. I greatly enjoyed my phone the first year, but then Tmo pushed out the Android 2.2 update and it made my phone slow to a crawl, hard reset didn't do anything to help.

So my question is: Does an old iPhone get slower when the iOS is updated to a new version? Also, did I have just plain bad luck in choosing an Android phone, and newer phones will far better with upgrades?

My phone's be sluggish for about a year now thanks for a forced upgrade. I'd like to goto a mobile phone where after the 1st year I'm carrying around something that makes me want to use a laptop instead of my phone to look something up because it's so slow!


TL;DR version: Do iPhones get slower when their iOS is updated like my android phone did when it's Android version was updated?
 
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No, if anything they should be faster/better in some aspects. Same goes for modern Android phones. If you're switching to Verizon, on the 19th they should be revealing the Galaxy Nexus, and you've also got the iPhone 4S out around that time too.

There's also a bunch of other Android phones to choose from, but if you're on Verizon it's a bit less of a choice compared to other carriers, and there's no point getting one until we see how the Galaxy Nexus fairs.
 
with the 3G and iOS 4 a lot of people complained, but it really wasn't that bad. about as slow as my droid pro. it's just that for new phones apple has high performance standards.

with the 4S being dual core i don't think it will be that bad in the future
 
well with ios4 my GF's iphone 3g went to shit. Froze every other time using it. Definitely was not built for the older hardware. She then got a mytouch 3g slide and got the 2.2 update just fine and i still have the phone here but she upgraded to the mytouch 4g slide.

Right now ios 5 is out and some people are reporting upgrading problems such as losing all your back up data so best to let them straighten out the bugs. In the mean time check out some new androids.
 
No. iOS 5 just came out and it improved performance.
iPhone 3G on 4.0 was a disaster. Then iOS 4.1 fixed it.

Problem is, iPhone gets fixes, almost every other week. Android doesn't, and you are at the mercy of community developers for fixes.
 
It was only iPhone 3G with iOS4 that was slow. iOS4.1 fixed most of the problems and iOS5 is a significant speed bump across the board.

You'll have longer and more consistent support for an iPhone than an Android. Android gets more support from the development community than Google or the phone manufacturer itself. However, the support is not reliable, at least in my experience.

Currently, iPhone4S with iOS5 is the fastest phone you can get. The Google Nexus is releasing soon and you can wait and see what that offers.
 
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i remember when iOS 4 came out and the camera on my 3GS became 100% better. i thought it was just me tripping on acid, but the forums were full of people saying the same thing
 
You'll have longer and more consistent support for an iPhone than an Android. Android gets more support from the development community than Google or the phone manufacturer itself. However, the support is not reliable, at least in my experience.
Generally perhaps (though of course unofficial Android firmwares are a whole universe), but since he's going Verizon the next device on the table is a Nexus with full official Google support. These get iterative updates very regularly.

Sticking to EVDO with LTE available is, I think, foolish... unless you live in a no-LTE-ever zone.
 
Generally perhaps (though of course unofficial Android firmwares are a whole universe), but since he's going Verizon the next device on the table is a Nexus with full official Google support. These get iterative updates very regularly.

I agree. If you buy one of the Nexus phones, you will get excellent long-term support. The rest of the Android universe is less consistent. Some manufacturers do ok, a lot of the others don't. And the Android community is amazingly vibrant and active, but they are inconsistent on which phones they support. If you have a popular phone, you are set. If you get one of the less popular ones - which is hard to know when you are buying it - you will be less fortunate.

As far as I've seen iPhone updates don't slow down the phones with the sole exception that has been mentioned of the iPhone 3G when iOS 4.0 rolled out.
 
Generally perhaps (though of course unofficial Android firmwares are a whole universe), but since he's going Verizon the next device on the table is a Nexus with full official Google support. These get iterative updates very regularly.

Sticking to EVDO with LTE available is, I think, foolish... unless you live in a no-LTE-ever zone.

Honestly 3G vs LTE doesn't matter to us. Most of the time we'll be on Wifi.

I have told my wife we are not going to Verizon until they have the new Google Nexus phone in for me to look at it. I got thick fingers and the idea of a bigger screen is tempting! That also means the rush of people to getting iPhones will be past so we'll actually be able to look at working demo's of each phone, hopefully.

Looking back and reading these posts, you know I really should have looked at custom Firmware/ROM for my MyTouch when the 2.2 update slowed it down. Oh well live and learn!

I agree. If you buy one of the Nexus phones, you will get excellent long-term support. The rest of the Android universe is less consistent. Some manufacturers do ok, a lot of the others don't. And the Android community is amazingly vibrant and active, but they are inconsistent on which phones they support. If you have a popular phone, you are set. If you get one of the less popular ones - which is hard to know when you are buying it - you will be less fortunate.

As far as I've seen iPhone updates don't slow down the phones with the sole exception that has been mentioned of the iPhone 3G when iOS 4.0 rolled out.

Sounds like the original MyTouch wasn't very popular. I just now did a quick Google and can't find much for the original MyTouch 3G (we got the phone literally the day it was released). All the custom ROM's seem to be for MyTouch 3G 1.2 (has the 3.5mm jack my phone lacks) and the MyTouch Slide. So basically it's a crap shoot when buying a new android phone if it'll be popular enough to have lots of community support. Given my experience with my current Android phone it's certainly pushing me in the direction of iOS.

I'm still going to wait to see the new Nexus in store though, it should be there soon. I'm taking my time because whatever phone I get I'll be stuck with for 22 months and I don't want to end up with another slug after a year.
 
Just wanted to post a follow-up.

The wife and I both got the black iPhone 4S 32GB. In hindsight I should have gotten the 16GB for myself. My wife has tons of music to fill up her phone, I was planning to watch movies but the small screen hurts my eyes after a period of time.

After comparing phone sizes at the Verizon store I realized a 4" screen is the largest I want the screen to be without the phone feeling too large in my hand. All the Android phones that I was interested in were just too big in my hand. I also still have bad memories of the forced android upgrade on the MyTouch 3G and how it slowed my phone to a crawl even after a factory reset.

The iPhone is nice and responsive, and it runs happily along on WiFi which I'm on 90% of the time. The 3G data speed is slower than my old Tmobile phone, I don't know if that's Verizon or the phone though. I also get better coverage and fewer dropped calls on Verizon as opposed to Tmobile. Most notably my new phone gets coverage inside buildings were my old Tmo phone would not.

Things I miss from Android? The biggest thing is Google Navigation. I used it all the time and I almost returned my iPhone just for that reason alone. I eventually found a free app that works almost as well, but I still miss the awesomeness of Google Navigation. Another thing I miss is the native Gmail App. I didn't see the iOS one until after Google pulled it, so I'm still using the integrated iphone email.

Overall, I'd say I like my iPhone more than my old Android phone with a couple of caveats.
1) Verizon is more expensive then Tmo, but the coverage is much better for me personally.
2) I'm not convinced I'll stick with iOS long term. I might go back to Android in 20 months.
3) If I go back to Android I'm definitely getting a "Google" phone.
 
Thanks for the informative post. Ive always heard that google navigation is simply awesome, thanks for re-affirming that.

As for coverage, I was considering moving to verizon once my AT&T contract is up. I know that 3G is slower on verizon than AT&T but was the difference in speed enough for you to move back to t-mobile? I end up in a lot of areas that are on the outskirts of cell phone coverage (ski resorts, forest land, etc) and I have heard many times that verizon is the service provider to go with for this aspect. I am willing to lose a little speed on 3G as long as my connection is more reliable. What do you think?
 
Thanks for the informative post. Ive always heard that google navigation is simply awesome, thanks for re-affirming that.

As for coverage, I was considering moving to verizon once my AT&T contract is up. I know that 3G is slower on verizon than AT&T but was the difference in speed enough for you to move back to t-mobile? I end up in a lot of areas that are on the outskirts of cell phone coverage (ski resorts, forest land, etc) and I have heard many times that verizon is the service provider to go with for this aspect. I am willing to lose a little speed on 3G as long as my connection is more reliable. What do you think?

i have a tmobile family plan, and i also pay 30 bucks a month for a 3g verizon mifi. ends up still being cheaper than a full on verizon plan, and I have the advantage of verizon's data plan when I'm on road trips etc.
 
Thanks for the informative post. Ive always heard that google navigation is simply awesome, thanks for re-affirming that.

As for coverage, I was considering moving to verizon once my AT&T contract is up. I know that 3G is slower on verizon than AT&T but was the difference in speed enough for you to move back to t-mobile? I end up in a lot of areas that are on the outskirts of cell phone coverage (ski resorts, forest land, etc) and I have heard many times that verizon is the service provider to go with for this aspect. I am willing to lose a little speed on 3G as long as my connection is more reliable. What do you think?

I'm sticking with Verizon. The slower 3G speed is meaningless to me since 90% of the time I'm on WiFi. I was with T-Mobile for 11 years and probably would have stuck with them if my wife had not demanded her next phone be an iPhone.

Verizon has better coverage for the areas I visit than T-Mobile, but even with my wife's employee discount VZW costs more than Tmo. So in my case I'm getting what I'm paying for.
 
the thing that I really like about android is using my phone like a USB drive out of the box...sigh.
 
fwiw - I use MapQuest for Navigation and pretty happy with it.

For email, I use hotmail and gmail and just go thru their webpages. Both have excellent mobile webpages.
 
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