Question regarding Network Cable

kelvin1704

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Does anyone know what is the limits of the network cable? Can it be 200 feet long in a single cable?

What's the limit? thanks


How about mouse cable?
 

buleyb

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Well if I recall correctly, 100base-T over Cat5 cable can run a max of 100meters per segment (meaning before needing to be actively repeated via a repeater, hub, switch, router, etc...)

Mouse cable...don't know :) :)
 

Whitedog

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328ft (yep, that's about 100 meters :) ) for CAT5. I don't know if there IS a standard for mouse cables? lol. Most people use the cable that's attached to them. I hope you don't want to run a 200 foot mouse cable ;)

I would say using one of those 10-15' extension cables would be ok though. I've seen some pretty long cables used in server rooms using multi-port boxes.
 

buleyb

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If you do want to run mouse cables real far, look into the KVM extender boxes, that tranlate keyboard/vid/mouse signals onto cat5, then back again before the end...
 

kelvin1704

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Thanks..

i did run mouse cable extention before... use two of it at once. Never tried longer than that. :)
 

Texun

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CAT5 is 328 - but mouse cables???? Not sure about serial or PS2 but USB is only good for about 12 or 15 feet. Can't remember which.
 

bgeh

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CAT5 is rated to 100M
CAT5e is rated to 350M
CAT6 and CAT6e is rated to 550M or 1000M depending on your source
CAT7 is supposedly rated to 700M or presumably 1000M

Today there is no approved CAT6 or CAT7. While some folks are selling products they call Level 6 or 7, there aren?t even specs for them, making CAT5e the best available option. CAT6 cable is being made with 23 guage conductor wire as opposed to the slightly smaller 24 guage for CAT5e and also has a separator to handle crosstalk better.

Both CAT5 and CAT5e have 100 ohm impedance and electrical characteristics supporting transmissions up to 100 MHz. The differences between CAT5 and CAT5e show in all aspects of performance: capacitance, frequency, resistance, attenuation, and NEXT. CAT5e components were designed with high-speed gigabit Ethernet in mind. While CAT5 components may function to some degree in a gigabit Ethernet, they perform below standard during high-data transfer scenarios. CAT5e cables work with ATM and gigabit speed products. Simply, if you are using a 100Mbps switch, get CAT5e cable instead of CAT5.

CAT5e is formally called ANSI/TIA/EIA 568A-5 or simply Category 5e (the e stands for ?enhanced?). CAT5e is completely backward compatible with current CAT5 equipment. The enhanced electrical performance of CAT5e ensures that the cable will support applications that require additional bandwidth, such as gigabit Ethernet or analog video.

I have no idea on the limits of mouse cables.
 

ScottMac

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Cat 6 has been ratified for a while now. Anixter Level 7 actually rates higher than Category 6.

The max distance for data on ANY Category rated UTP is 100 meters, with the following conditions:

Up to 90 meters (~270 feet) of solid conductor, with up to 10 meters (~5 meters at each end) being stranded ("jumper cable").

There can be no splices, kinks, twists, knots, crushed jacket, or bend of less than a 2" radius. There are other rules, but these are the biggies.

The connectors must be terminated according to the EIA/TIA 568a or 568b standard. Improper pair order (most frequent is a split-pair at 3&6) is the most common termination error. If the pair-order is not observed, then you next post will be "My 100 meg system only runs at 10meg or less....." (this is the primary symptom of a split pair at 3&6).

Stranded cable for the entire span GREATLY reduces the overall length capacity ... you can't do 100 meters over stranded, there's too much attenuation (mostly) , and the crosstalk ratings are lower for stranded cable.

You are also limited in the number of intermediate cross-connects, and all components should be the same Category rating (including the lil' plastic ends - unrated ends are cheaper, but drop the rating of the cable). All panels, outlets, cross-connects, barrel connectors, and plugs should be the same rating (or worse case, rated higher).

If you're not familiar with Category-rated UTP termination, you should just buy the cables pre-made from a cable company. The termination process is not hard to do mechanically, but it's much tougher than it looks to do the cable properly and up-to-spec.

Analog video can be transported several thousand feet over Cat 3 UTP with a little degradation, and hundereds of feet over higher Category-rated cable with no perceptable degradation.

Good Luck

Scott
 

Macro2

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Why can Cat3 carry an analog video signal so much further than say Cat5e?

mac
 

Lord Evermore

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He said with degradation. :) I think by "little" degradation, he means noticeable and only just barely acceptable. The Cat5 length was with no degradation at all.
 

Macro2

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Ah. I see what he mean't. Was a bit confusing. I thought Cat 3 and Cat 5e were 24 guage wire.

Mac
 

ScottMac

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I think most Cat 3 or unrated (like DIW) is 26 (or 28?) guage.

FWIW

Scott