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question regarding laser jammers

QueBert

QueBert

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My roommate just spent a butt-load of cash getting a laser jammer installed on his car. The shop that installed it told him they have no had no way to show him it worked when he asked to see it demoed. But they assured him it was installed properly, I laughed at his stupidity for spending that kind of money at a hole in the wall stereo shop. They offer no returns, it says right on the work order with his signature on. Outside of speeding by a cop and seeing if it beeps when he gets hit. Is there any reasonably priced way to test this?
 
Laser jammer? Hahah. The latest Escort detector or whatever apparently is pretty good, but for how long?
 
I thought laser jammers don’t stop it they just slow it down. So you need that plus a really good detector.

Even then most agencies still use radar. So instant on will still catch you.
 
The Boston Dangler said:
your roommate is a fool, at least 3 times over. tell him to enjoy the tickets.
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He got the Laser Interceptor, which by the dozens of reviews I've read works flawlessly. He's not concerned if the device works as advertised, he's just not sure if it was installed correctly. Correctly installed it'll warn him of an incoming signal from a cop, instantly jam the cops gun with an error code and give him 5 seconds before it disables itself. So by the cop resets his gun and shoots again to get an accurate reading you'll have slowed down to the speed limit.

I'm not for breaking laws, but this is some very cool technology. For $1500 installed I'd be more than a little upset if the shop couldn't show me it in action though. He also has an Escort 9500ix radar detector, the one with GPS.


JackBurton said:
Tell him to buy one of these.
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Thanks, I'll pass this along to him
 
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The biggest problem is not if the product works, but if the placement of the diodes are correct. The only way to test is with an actual laser, either professional or like the tester above.

Also, is it legal in your state? I know it varies across the country so be careful.
 
KentState said:
The biggest problem is not if the product works, but if the placement of the diodes are correct. The only way to test is with an actual laser, either professional or like the tester above.

Also, is it legal in your state? I know it varies across the country so be careful.
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Apparently it's technically legal in CA if you claim it was installed as a back up sensor, when a cop shoots you for a speed reading after it jams it disables the jamming part and just leaves the back up sensor on which makes it legal. I for one wouldn't want to test this with an actual police stopping me. But if you believe what people say on forums on the internet he's not ever going to get busted for having this. An d if you believe what people on forums say, this + his radar detector will keep him from ever getting a ticket. Doesn't seem worth it considering it was over a $2k investment. But I guess if you want to speed and not get caught it's money well spent.
 
QueBert said:
Apparently it's technically legal in CA if you claim it was installed as a back up sensor, when a cop shoots you for a speed reading after it jams it disables the jamming part and just leaves the back up sensor on which makes it legal. I for one wouldn't want to test this with an actual police stopping me. But if you believe what people say on forums on the internet he's not ever going to get busted for having this. An d if you believe what people on forums say, this + his radar detector will keep him from ever getting a ticket. Doesn't seem worth it considering it was over a $2k investment. But I guess if you want to speed and not get caught it's money well spent.
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Sorry, but it is 100% illegal in any case. You can "claim" whatever you want, fact remains, it is illegal.

California Law said:
28150. (a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
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Also, they can tell on the guns if you use it. It will return an error, apparently, and even if you have one that turns off after initially jamming, they will know.
 
smackababy said:
Sorry, but it is 100% illegal in any case. You can "claim" whatever you want, fact remains, it is illegal.



Also, they can tell on the guns if you use it. It will return an error, apparently, and even if you have one that turns off after initially jamming, they will know.
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That's why I said technically, because there is no way they can prove 100% you jammed them. Initially it just returns a generic error reading code, which could happen for multiple legit reasons. And the device does function as a back up sensor, which is even listed in the booklet for it. My guess is it would be too much work for a cop to prove anything here. Also all the hardware is mounted where it can't be seen without a lot of inspection. There are thousands of people on jammer forums who use this unit and my roommate only found a few cases of someone with one installed getting a ticket they couldn't beat in court. There are logs of brag threads where people talk about jamming cops 40+ times without a single problem.

Who knows, I do know he's pushing his luck, but that's on him.
 
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QueBert said:
That's why I said technically, because there is no way they can prove 100% you jammed them. Initially it just returns a generic error reading code, which could happen for multiple legit reasons. And the device does function as a back up sensor, which is even listed in the booklet for it. My guess is it would be too much work for a cop to prove anything here. Also all the hardware is mounted where it can't be seen without a lot of inspection. There are thousands of people on jammer forums who use this unit and my roommate only found a few cases of someone with one installed getting a ticket they couldn't beat in court. There are logs of brag threads where people talk about jamming cops 40+ times without a single problem.

Who knows, I do know he's pushing his luck, but that's on him.
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The errors returned are typical of jammers. The fact the cops don't care to chase the person down, search their car, and ticket them is a different story. Regardless of the other functions of the jammer, they are still illegal. In fact, part b states the manufacture and sale of such devices are also illegal. The reason people don't get pulled over is because of either a) lazy police or b) police not trained laser jammer technology.

Also, if I took every brag on an internet forum as fact, I'd be quite the fool.

I am sure police don't care about these, so long as the person isn't driving dangerously. They wouldn't need to radar you in that case anyway. Missing out on a few speeders (who generally slow down after the initial laser jammer pops) isn't a huge deal. They have bigger fish to catch, so to speak. Now, if they can come up with one that matches the frequency and intensity of the laser to emulate a return of a particular speed (that I can set myself) I wouldn't mind having one. Being able to cruise on the highway and not get popped doing 85 in a 70 would nice.
 
Unless you are going 5-10 over, your reaction time will not get you below the limit.

Depending on how many diode detectors you have will determine coverage.

One is essentially shooting a beam back with an offset to confuse the gun.
As another has stated, an officer's gun "jams" while someone blows by above the limit is enough for suspicion.

We did a lab project with radar, send back a shifted freq to simulate a lower speed when a radar signal was detected. Great project. Confused heck out a radar gun, getting its return and then one immediately after at a different freq. The tech did not exist to try to match the desired speed based on present speed. However, after proving it out, the state police advised us to shelve it.

Technicalities of the law will not get you off. Arguing such can get the book thrown at you.
 
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EagleKeeper said:
We did a lab project with radar, send back a shifted freq to simulate a lower speed when a radar signal was detected. Great project. Confused heck out a radar gun, getting its return and then one immediately after at a different freq. The tech did not exist to try to match the desired speed based on present speed. However, after proving it out, the state police advised us to shelve it.

Technicalities of the law will not get you off. Arguing such can get the book thrown at you.
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Well radar is also FCC regulated and is a federal offense if you deploy a jamming device so probably the police advise well placed. On the other hand, the light spectrum is not regulated so it's really up to the state to set the laws. If in Georgia, you can jam any laser you wish and the police do not have any recourse. Not to say that they could not use another method to get you on speeding.
 
nerp said:
Laser jammer? Hahah. The latest Escort detector or whatever apparently is pretty good, but for how long?
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It's not. Escort's laser jammer system sub par, IMO.

Blinder or Laser Interceptor are the only brands the tests have shown to work effectively.
 
smackababy said:
Also, they can tell on the guns if you use it. It will return an error, apparently, and even if you have one that turns off after initially jamming, they will know.
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They can suspect, but they won't know. There are legit reasons for having to hit the trigger again on a laser gun. I've heard police are trained to alternate between middle of front bumper (usual license plate area) to closest headlight, and back/forth until they get a reading.

QueBert said:
An d if you believe what people on forums say, this + his radar detector will keep him from ever getting a ticket.
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Until CHP paces him. :whiste:
 
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