Question on my overclock

[Macgruber]

4.5ghz @ v1.320 (v1.335 in bios)
or 4.2ghz @ <<<v1.320 (i forgot what i had it stable at lol)



The comp is on 24/7, working 24/7, and Corsair H100'd 24/7
What do you guys think? Should I drop the OC or push a bit?

My goal is to NOT burn out my chip, NOT fry anything, and NOT lose the 300$ i spent on this processor... Is it safe to say im not at a "risky voltage"?

Is it true if I'm not passing 1.37 or 1.4 i shouldnt even worry?



I want your guys opinions -> you always help me out and i appreciate

 

[VirtualLarry]

 

[Macgruber]

lol sweet pic mate

 

[BrightCandle]

There is no safe overclock. While you could happily be using it for a decade at 1.32V it might also fail within a week. You just don't know. I do know that very short lifetimes have been seen at 1.4V.

 

[Idontcare]

My goal is to NOT burn out my chip, NOT fry anything, and NOT lose the 300$ i spent on this processor... Is it safe to say im not at a "risky voltage"?

Intel considers 1.4V to be the max acceptable voltage for their 32nm Gulftown chips, and since Sandy Bridge is made on the same 32nm process node it stands to reason that you can use the "1.4V max" as a decent upper-limit given your desire to be conservative in not killing your chip (which is Intel's desire too).

 

[Macgruber]

There is no safe overclock. While you could happily be using it for a decade at 1.32V it might also fail within a week. You just don't know. I do know that very short lifetimes have been seen at 1.4V.

yeah man i know, its the same as, youre safe no where, youre not safe walking outside, inside or sleeping

what i meant by safe is can i enjoy the overclock for a long time? obviously a 4.5ghz overclock is not the same as a 3.9 overclock or a 4.9 or a 5.xghz

Intel considers 1.4V to be the max acceptable voltage for their 32nm Gulftown chips, and since Sandy Bridge is made on the same 32nm process node it stands to reason that you can use the "1.4V max" as a decent upper-limit given your desire to be conservative in not killing your chip (which is Intel's desire too).

ty very much mate,
im going to read up on the RMA/warranty i just want to know if ill be covered in a worst case scenario, of course im not looking to go to 5ghz run 24/7 for 1month and have the chip die, i just want to OC for the extra power and know im still at a voltage where im not 100% at risk every second its on

edit ->
wow, before looking on manual or manufacturer site, i saw a forum post http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264113-29-intel-2600k .... wow v1.5200 , makes me honestly WANT to crank up to as high as i can and RMA the chip if anything happens lol! im guessing at about 2 years 11months i should probably RMA the chip regarldess if it lasts that long xD!!!!

 

[RaistlinZ]

You don't spend $100.00 on a liquid cooler to run at a wussy 4.2Ghz, I can tell ya that much.

 

[Soulkeeper]

Maybe run the slower overclock.
That way you'll always have that little extra you could unleash when the computer starts to feel slow

 

[Vectronic]

I don't suggest "pushing" the CPU more than your current 4.5GHz @ 1.33~ It will probably take 1.41v to get 4.6.

Whats' your temps using P95 Large FFT?... >75C?

You'd probably be better off getting better TIM (no idea what H100 comes with) possibly a better fan or two, try dropping your temperatures by 10C... that will probably let you drop voltage to 1.300.

The more you "push" the shorter your CPU life-span will be... it might run 8 years at 4.5... but only 3 at 4.6.

Lowest voltage, lowest temperature, that's your aim... TIM is pretty cheap, fans are pretty cheap, experimenting with your case and cooling setup is fairly cheap.

At the top end of my overclocking, simply reducing the ambient temperature by 3 to 4 degrees, allows for about 150 more MHz or about 0.02 less voltage.

RaistlinZ is right... you could probably do 4.2GHz on the stock cooler, so that's really not worth it unless you are doing something like disabling the cooler's fan with priority on quietness.

You can probably crank it up to well over 1.52... just don't keep it there... I would have gone over 1.63 with mine, but it was pointless so I stopped (like revving an engine to 6000 RPM when you're stuck in mud)... *but* I also trust my chip, I've tested pretty much every voltage, every clock speed... I know which gears for which RPM, when it's requiring too much voltage for the given temperature and desired clock, etc... I'm no CPU whisperer or anything... for all I know it might die tomorrow, but so far there's no degradation, same voltages for same clocks.

Soulkeeper has a point too, saving two or more configs can be useful especially if you use an OEM app with hotkeys... that way you can swap between Stock, Minor Overclock, Major Overclock depending on desire... leaving the house for awhile?... maybe go 4.2GHz... gaming?... 4.5GHz... etc

 

[john3850]

On most of my new pcs I was able to run superPi at a few hundred more Hz durning the first few months after 6 months or so I was never able to reach that same high speed again.
I believe that mb and cpu degrade fast at the start then level out and stay at the same level for years.
When got my i7-930 I was able to run superPi at 4500-4600 for a few months.

 

[Macgruber]

You don't spend $100.00 on a liquid cooler to run at a wussy 4.2Ghz, I can tell ya that much.

I didn't buy a water cooling system to really overclock, i bought it for silent cooling due to my contac30 making noise and not fitting with 4sticks of ram, low profile cooler on cpu, i can tell ya that much

I don't suggest "pushing" the CPU more than your current 4.5GHz @ 1.33~ It will probably take 1.41v to get 4.6.

Whats' your temps using P95 Large FFT?... >75C?

You'd probably be better off getting better TIM (no idea what H100 comes with) possibly a better fan or two, try dropping your temperatures by 10C... that will probably let you drop voltage to 1.300.

The more you "push" the shorter your CPU life-span will be... it might run 8 years at 4.5... but only 3 at 4.6.

Lowest voltage, lowest temperature, that's your aim... TIM is pretty cheap, fans are pretty cheap, experimenting with your case and cooling setup is fairly cheap.

At the top end of my overclocking, simply reducing the ambient temperature by 3 to 4 degrees, allows for about 150 more MHz or about 0.02 less voltage.

RaistlinZ is right... you could probably do 4.2GHz on the stock cooler, so that's really not worth it unless you are doing something like disabling the cooler's fan with priority on quietness.

You can probably crank it up to well over 1.52... just don't keep it there... I would have gone over 1.63 with mine, but it was pointless so I stopped (like revving an engine to 6000 RPM when you're stuck in mud)... *but* I also trust my chip, I've tested pretty much every voltage, every clock speed... I know which gears for which RPM, when it's requiring too much voltage for the given temperature and desired clock, etc... I'm no CPU whisperer or anything... for all I know it might die tomorrow, but so far there's no degradation, same voltages for same clocks.

Soulkeeper has a point too, saving two or more configs can be useful especially if you use an OEM app with hotkeys... that way you can swap between Stock, Minor Overclock, Major Overclock depending on desire... leaving the house for awhile?... maybe go 4.2GHz... gaming?... 4.5GHz... etc

what is TIM the 8/3 years example solved my question more than anything, i just wanted to know if im at a rate where my chip is double down or quadruple down losing its lifespan, i should definately create the profiles but, the computer is active even when im gone and the extra MHz gives it the boost it needs

im <<64*C p95 at 4.5ghz

On most of my new pcs I was able to run superPi at a few hundred more Hz durning the first few months after 6 months or so I was never able to reach that same high speed again.
I believe that mb and cpu degrade fast at the start then level out and stay at the same level for years.
When got my i7-930 I was able to run superPi at 4500-4600 for a few months.

ill check out superPi thanks yeah i ran stock for about 2-3 weeks, then i disabled turbo boost and all the other "power saving" features, then i OC'd to 3.8ghz at v1.150 in bios ran that for about 2months, then i decided to hit 4.0 4.2 4.4 and finally 4.5ghz which is where i stopped

 

[alyarb]

You don't spend $100.00 on a liquid cooler to run at a wussy 4.2Ghz, I can tell ya that much.

lol

 

[Macgruber]

lol

^^ i kno right, says the guy running at 4.0
i was running 4.2 on air