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tylerdustin2008

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IS the res. 1366 x 768 a good one to run with games and such? Because i am upgrading soon and most of them have this resolution. Would it hurt anything?
 
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tylerdustin2008

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Thanks, because i have heard that LCD TV's can be real picky when it comes to hooking your computer up to them.
 
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giantpinkbunnyhead

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Well... what size is this TV? 1366x768 will look like ass on a larger screen because the pixels will have to be monstrous to span the dimensions. A smaller screen should look more detailed at that res, I would think.

 
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Slammy1

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Pixel density will be significantly less than what you're used to (about 1/3 less, assuming you have a NR of 1440x900 @ 16x10). I game at 1080p on a 16x9 37" monitor, which gives about 1.5x the pixel density of the 32" 768p display.

EDIT: Checked the math.
 
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tylerdustin2008

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Yea i use 1440x900 ATM. So what is the best big LCD TV under a thousand give or take a couple hundred, that i would like?
 
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Slammy1

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I'd probably avoid Hyundai and stick with the standard low end (Westinghouse, Sceptre); both of which are on sale for BF (check out the hot deals forum). The pixel density difference will be huge, but depending on viewing distance not that noticable. It'll have more impact on things like hi-res photography vs games. I find the size difference more than makes up for pixel density (I'm about 5' away and was 2' away from my 4:3 19", which had about twice the pixel density). The 3-D image effect is lessened by the density, but increased for the size so there is a trade off.

Interestingly, for 1080p at 24" you get the same pixel density (approx) as the 19".
 
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ArchAngel777

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Want to know what 1366 X 768 will look like? Head over to your local best buy and check out an Xbox 360 that is hooked up to a rather large display. The Xbox 360 when hooked through component is set at 1280 X 720 (720p) and it looks marvelous... That is what you can expect computer games to look like.

The advantage to getting an LCD with 1366 X 768 over one with say, 1920 X 1080 is less fill rate and therefore requires less horse power to run it. 1920 X 1080 does look better than 1366 X 768, but only marginally. In addition to that, pixel size and density are totally subjective based on your viewing distance...

I personally own a 30" that does 1280 X 768 and could not be happier. I think it looks great, can turn on AA and AF without too much trouble and do not have to upgrade my hardware all the time. It is totally a subjective arguement.
 
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tylerdustin2008

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Well i need a high quailty LCD TV because i am going to be about 2-3.5' away from it. And so far from what i have been told it will be fine with this resolution. I will see what happens tonight to see what it looks like from a distance.
 
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ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
Well i need a high quailty LCD TV because i am going to be about 2-3.5' away from it. And so far from what i have been told it will be fine with this resolution. I will see what happens tonight to see what it looks like from a distance.
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I sit about 2' from my 30"... Any closer and I would have to turn my head to see the left from the right :p
 
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Mr Pepper

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I can somewhat comment on this.

I use a 27" Viewsonic HDTV with a 7950gt via DVI @ 1360 x 768. I have the monitor right on my desk where I used to have a 19" LCD. I set AA at 4x, v-sync ON, quality HIGHEST and leave the rest to application control. The experience is AMAZING for shooters in particular. MMO & RTS games are passable, but suffer somewhat due to lower resulution/text size issues. Nothing game breaking however. For me though, shooters are my bread and butter, so I love the setup. I still play a MMO too, and I am pleased but not overly so with this setup for that.

Some notes:

-You have to create a custom resolution (1360 x 768) to work right on DVI. It was a huge pain my first time, but I have is down now. Also, I don't know how well ATI drivers are with creating custom resolutions for use with HDTV over DVI. nVidia drivers work fine though.

-You lose 6 pixels (3 on each side of the screen) because 1366 is not a valid PC resolution (not divisible by 8) No biggie there...

-If you do not run 1360 x 768 1:1 (1280 x 720 16:9 for example), 2D text will look awful. It looks great 1:1 however.

- 1:1 2D Text is quite usable, but can further be cleaned up with clear-type

-Anything less than 4x AA will look like crap in games (serious jaggy-ness) With 4X or better AA, everything looks beautiful

-Any 720P screen larger than 27" will need to be farther and farther away to look decent. The pixels just start getting too big. 27" seems just right for me though.

Anyway, it can be done with some extra work and I am quite happy with my setup. I am incredibly picky too boot. :)
 
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ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: Mr Pepper
I can somewhat comment on this.

I use a 27" Viewsonic HDTV with a 7950gt via DVI @ 1360 x 768. I have the monitor right on my desk where I used to have a 19" LCD. I set AA at 4x, v-sync ON, quality HIGHEST and leave the rest to application control. The experience is AMAZING for shooters in particular. MMO & RTS games are passable, but suffer somewhat due to lower resulution/text size issues. Nothing game breaking however. For me though, shooters are my bread and butter, so I love the setup. I still play a MMO too, and I am pleased but not overly so with this setup for that.

Some notes:

-You have to create a custom resolution (1360 x 768) to work right on DVI. It was a huge pain my first time, but I have is down now. Also, I don't know how well ATI drivers are with creating custom resolutions for use with HDTV over DVI. nVidia drivers work fine though.

-You lose 6 pixels (3 on each side of the screen) because 1366 is not a valid PC resolution (not divisible by 8) No biggie there...

-If you do not run 1360 x 768 1:1 (1280 x 720 16:9 for example), 2D text will look awful. It looks great 1:1 however.

- 1:1 2D Text is quite usable, but can further be cleaned up with clear-type

-Anything less than 4x AA will look like crap in games (serious jaggy-ness) With 4X or better AA, everything looks beautiful

-Any 720P screen larger than 27" will need to be farther and farther away to look decent. The pixels just start getting too big. 27" seems just right for me though.

Anyway, it can be done with some extra work and I am quite happy with my setup. I am incredibly picky too boot. :)
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Well.... I can't completely agree about it lookling like crap without AA. however, I do realize this is your opinion and that is cool. But I do not personally feel the aliasing is THAT bad. I do agree though, that 4X AA improves the image dramatically.

I used to be very picky (to each their own) but over the years I realized that I just shot myself in the foot being that way. Nothing in life seems to be perfect and ignorance is bliss... I often wish I could get rid of my pickyness in regards to framerates but that is ONE thing I cannot get over... :-( Bummer for me.

With an LCD-TV, I agree that you have to use 1:1 pixel mapping.



 
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ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
With an LCD-TV, I agree that you have to use 1:1 pixel mapping.
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And how might this be achieved?
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for ATi? No idea... for nVidia? Go into the control panel and turn off nVidia scaling. From what I have read, nVidia has the advantage in this area, though I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong, because I am looking at ATi to power my next system.
 
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Slammy1

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I believe ATI will auto-detect the resolution across the DVI, at least it did for a couple of people I helped on-line. You also can create progressive resolutions in CCC as well as turning off the stretch to fit the display. You can also create a custom res with powerstrip if all else fails. 1:1 mapping is the only way to go, anything else and you'll get stretching and macroblocking. A 27" at 768p is just a little less pixel density than my 1080p 37", seems about right for gaming.
 
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ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: tylerdustin2008
WEll i think i am going to be getting an 26" samsung with 1080i and p.
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Before you make any purchase, I recomend checking out the AVS forums and doing some searches on there before you make a purchase like that. Good luck...
 
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