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pegasis

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i was wondering is there a way to set up a routable domain with a domain name without buying a domain name??

like using an alias domain name over a static ip?
 

mxnerd

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Owning a top level domain always cost money, it's like doing business. You need to pay yearly registration fee, no matter what.

There are some sites offering "free" domains, but always have catches.
 

Gryz

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$5 per year is a rip off ?
Looks like you're gonna have bigger problems later in life.

The domain-name system is hierarchical. Keep that word in mind: hierarchical. The top-level domains are fixed. Like .com, .net, .nl, etc. The second level of domainname is for sale. example.com or gryz.nl. Very cheap, open to everyone, as long as the name wasn't taken yet.

And then there is the third level of domainnames. www.example.com. Or smtp.mailhost.com. Those names look like they are services. But in reality, they are just names. If you've ever worked in a company or university where the admins assign names for every computer, you'd know that domainnames are just names for computers. The general public knows them as names for services. But they are not.

Do you know anyone who as a domainname ? Especially someone who runs his own DNS-server ? You can easily ask that person if they want to create a subdomain for you.

E.g. suppose your friend has yourfriend.com. He's operating a webserver called www.yourfriend.com. He can easily create a new subdomain called: pegasis.yourfriend.com. You can then create your own domainnames under that: www.pegasis.yourfriend.com or ipad.pegasis.yourfriend.com or whatever.pegasis.yourfriend.com.

Whether something is routable or not has little to do with the DNS. DNS is about names. Routing is about addresses. In the DNS you can (must) couple names to addresses. Your friend can enter those entries in his DNS server, e.g. a connection (called A-record) like "free.pegasis.yourfriend.com A 1.2.3.4".

For some reason people think that all the domainnames they use must be second-tier names. E.g. I've seen companies who e.g. already own domainname company.com, then get an additional name: promotion-company.com. They could just as well have used: promotion.company.com and not wasted those $5.

Maybe there are companies that do this for free. No idea. But it wouldn't suprise me. All they need is a webpage where you can enter names and addresses, and they would inject that into their own DNS servers, under their own domainname.

A quick google: reveals that those free services indeed exist.

First hit: dot.tk
So you can easily, and for free, get "pegasis.tk".
Is that what you wanted ?
 

pegasis

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If you ask someone to create a sub-domain they will charge you $5-10 per month.

I know you can set up static IPs on a machine, but unless the ip is advertised no one will know of it.

hence the domain name thingy.. an advertising gimmick for the public

I just wanted to know if I can assign/use a domain alias on a static IP, and use it in lieu of buying a domain

I want to use the domain on my machine with a static ip

Thanks
 

JackMDS

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If you ask someone to create a sub-domain they will charge you $5-10 per month.

I know you can set up static IPs on a machine, but unless the ip is advertised no one will know of it.

hence the domain name thingy.. an advertising gimmick for the public

I just wanted to know if I can assign/use a domain alias on a static IP, and use it in lieu of buying a domain

I want to use the domain on my machine with a static ip

Thanks

Yes that is what a Free DNS service can do for you Free.

http://freedns.afraid.org/

It is Not controlled bY Gov. or Big Corp. (May be Klingon control it, but No one is really sure).



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Some "cloud enabled" routers include DDNS services hosted by the manufacturer. Mine registered automagically and is _____.asuscomm.com.

Beats trying to figure out how to use one of those free DDNS services.
 

mxnerd

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You can associate domain name with dynamic IP or static IP.

You will be charged extra if you want a fixed IP. No matter home user or business.

http://freedns.afraid.org/ provides you free DNS service (dynamic or static, top level or 2nd level), not free domain registration.

And there are many free DDNS service out there.

If you want top level domain, you have to pay. Domain registration / DNS is complex thing and it's global, you need many people & computers to maintain it, how can it be free?

dot.tk offer you 1-12 months "free" domain registration, you still have to pay after 12 months if you want to keep it.

If all you want is let people easily to find you and do not need a top domain, a subdomain DDNS service (no fixed IP required) offered by many (noip.com, changeip.com, etc. ) or DNS service offered by http://freedns.afraid.org/ is all you need. Like what Gryz said. Then you don't have to pay.
 
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