I'd reverse that. The score without the report is what is useless to you. Wow you have a number, lets say 713, but a score alone means nothing. Do I give the number, 713, to my kids to play with? Do I take that number and put it in my car to drive? What do I do with that number? Nothing.Originally posted by: jandrews
You can only get a free credit report to see what is on your report for free. Really without the score it is pretty useless.
Originally posted by: dullard
I'd reverse that. The score without the report is what is useless to you. Wow you have a number, lets say 713, but a score alone means nothing. What is useful is a report that tells you why your number isn't perfect, how to improve it, and any errors should be obvious to spot. A report that lists all that is something you can act on and something that can actually be useful to you.Originally posted by: jandrews
You can only get a free credit report to see what is on your report for free. Really without the score it is pretty useless.
The score alone doesn't tell you anything. It won't tell you how banks will look at you (you need to talk to a banker for that, especially if you are in the grey area with all the recent mortgage termoil). It won't tell you how to improve itself (you need to look at the report for that). The score alone gives you nothing.Originally posted by: jandrews
I highly disagree, for anyone buying anything that needs credit your score is vastly vastly more important than knowing what is on your report. You need to know your score to basically see what you can work with and even if you can qualify for a loan. If your score is high, ok good, it doesnt really matter whats on your report. If your credit score is quite low, then you know you need to check your credit report. The number is the key number number number!
Originally posted by: dullard
The score alone doesn't tell you anything. It won't tell you how banks will look at you (you need to talk to a banker for that, especially if you are in the grey area with all the recent mortgage termoil). It won't tell you how to improve itself (you need to look at the report for that). The score alone gives you nothing.Originally posted by: jandrews
I highly disagree, for anyone buying anything that needs credit your score is vastly vastly more important than knowing what is on your report. You need to know your score to basically see what you can work with and even if you can qualify for a loan. If your score is high, ok good, it doesnt really matter whats on your report. If your credit score is quite low, then you know you need to check your credit report. The number is the key number number number!
Remember, anyone can make their own formula for a credit score. Anyone can go into that business. Jandrews, after looking at your credit report, I give you a score of 105782. Now go do something with it. I'll wait here until you tell me what you did with that number.
Like I said if you know the score AND talk to a banker (such as what range they are interested in) you now have something. But the score alone without the range is useless. Note: the range is moving as we speak. Don't think the score range you knew that could get you a loan is valid any more.Originally posted by: jandrews
Well since I already know the range of credit
The score is important. But you can't do anything with the score alone. If your score is good, you should already know you have good credit, so the score is useless. If your score is bad, you should already know you have bad credit, so the score is useless. Why do you disagree that a report that you can act on is important?I dont see how you can disagree with that.
Originally posted by: jandrews
I highly disagree, for anyone buying anything that needs credit your score is vastly vastly more important than knowing what is on your report. You need to know your score to basically see what you can work with and even if you can qualify for a loan. If your score is high, ok good, it doesnt really matter whats on your report. If your credit score is quite low, then you know you need to check your credit report. The number is the key number number number!
The score is important to a bank (and other companies). The report is important to you
If you had a 750 score, you would know those things even without the score. You know you've done well and you apply to everything and get approved. Knowing if it is 740, 750, or 760 is worthless to you. So, lets get away from obviously good or obviously bad numbers (anyone should know if they are in those obvious categories without needing a score).You give me my FICO credit score alone, say, 750, I KNOW I can go get a credit card. Or a plasma screen TV. Or whatever. If you give me a piece of paper that says I never paid off a credit card, or I was late on a mortage payment, awesome. What do I do with that? Is that going to hurt me enough so I can't get credit at best buy? Is that going to make my mortage rate go up? Without my credit score I don't know.
If you want a plasma TV, a mortgage, etc, you will do what the report says to make your credit score better. It'll tell you exactly what to do. You can follow the report's advice and raise your score dramatically if you are in the lower 600s. Then that is all you can do. You can now qualify for most if not all of what you want.Originally posted by: Agentbolt
You said it yourself, what am I going to do with this report? Make a fort out of it? Fly it like a kite?
You pay your bills on time, you don't enter bankruptcy, etc and you are just fine. I've never gotten my credit score directly and I know it is as good as I ever need it to be. Once I accidently saw it when I was getting a mortgage (~780), but I really didn't care. I knew it was good enough to get anything I wanted. The credit reports tell you all that.Originally posted by: jandrews
Dullard, you are making no sense. How the heck would you know these things without the score? How are you supposed to know your score is high or low without actually checking that score? Knowing if your credit score is 600 or 750 does make a huge difference and I had NO idea what my credit score was until I actually signed up and found out for myself. You are making wayyyyy to many assumptions. People dont magically know their score, that is the whole reason scores are so important.
If your score is in the low 600s then you know you really need to check your report. If it is in the high 700s you already know it really doesnt matter. The point was the score is more important than the report, with the score you can know if the report is useful or not. Without the score your report means jack.
That really is a damn good example. It doesn't matter where you are now as much as where you want to be. You want to know what is wrong on your credit score, what you can do to improve it, etc. That is what the report does.Originally posted by: jandrews
But that is an incorrect example. Because with credit say you had a test with ten questions and got one wrong. You would assume you got an A, right? WRONG! Credit reports may look like they give you an indication of your credit score but you are usually wrong. Credit scores have a lot to do with many factors the average person cannot determine just by looking at the credit report. That is why you need the number. The number is the culmination, the key of what your report is. If your credit report is the question then your credit score is the answer. That is why score is most important.
Originally posted by: 49erinnc
With my Washington Mutual credit card account, I can check my "Credit Profile" any day of the week and get my TransUnion FICO score for free. It's updated every month and also has a graph tracking progress. It also has a report "snapshot" that shows me how many open accounts, closed accounts, inquiries, derogatory items, how many delinquencies and revolving balances.
It's one of my favorite features on my CC account.