Question is: How over-clockable is it ?

[Zenoth]

Just read the Anandtech review for G80.

Impressive indeed.

But I am so used to over-clock with my past GPUs, mostly with ATi, that I wouldn't see myself buying a 8800GTS and stay on its stock frequencies. I am asking two things: 1) Do any of you know any review where they tested the GTS under over-clocked settings ? 2) And what about you, did you buy a GTS ? If so, have you tried to OC it ? If so, how does it perform ?

I know it might be too early to ask this, but we never know. Some people had their lucky hands on a GTX already last week and perhaps even before that without telling the public.

Cause you know, the price : Performance ration with a GTS is more than tempting.

A single GTX would be out of question in my case though, I fear I'd put my bank account in its thin coffin if I'd dare buying one of those.

 

[the Chase]

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8800_preview/page23.asp

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: the Chase
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8800_preview/page23.asp

Damn you! I was just about to post that.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

The only site I've seen that has posted benchmarks for an overclocked GTS is Firingsquad.

Here:

Link

It looks like 600/900 is guaranteed.

While this look promising, I'd like to see more games benched, like Oblivion, FEAR, and Splinter Cell.

Edit: Triple Doh!

 

[the Chase]

Heh- that's why I didn't type anything with it- with my typing skills 8 peeps or more could have beat me to it. It seems most GTS's will hit at least 615-620 with quite a few hiting 650-660! and memory of 950-1000MHz.

 

[Zenoth]

Awesome, thanks guys.

 

[Insomniator]

I dont understand why overclocking would be so important.. would you not buy it if it performed better then everything else but couldnt overclock?

 

[Sentry2]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I dont understand why overclocking would be so important.. would you not buy it if it performed better then everything else but couldnt overclock?

Some people just like to overclock guy. Maybe this thread isn't for you...

 

[Skott]

Well, it looks like the GTS will OC to a stock GTX level more or less so thats a good thing. That'll make it very popular. Possibly more popular than the GTX model? Get the most bang for buck with the GTS? Until something better comes out that is.

 

[Zenoth]

People used to OC'ing their GPU's know what I'm talking about.

It's addictive to the same title a specific drug could be, or a specific game can be. It's just fun to try, and thrill to risk your GPU's functionality/stability through screwing the warranty, and, more importantly, that tranquility of mind after you do so in stable conditions. To know that what you have is performing better than it should, even if barely noticeable/negligible. It ain't for everyone.

 

[enz660hp]

soooooo how does the overclocked gts compare an overclocked gtx? I dont think its really fair to compre overclocked to stock speeds.....

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: enz660hp
soooooo how does the overclocked gts compare an overclocked gtx? I dont think its really fair to compre overclocked to stock speeds.....

Probably relative to the difference between a stock GTS vs a stock GTX?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I dont understand why overclocking would be so important.. would you not buy it if it performed better then everything else but couldnt overclock?

I guess the more distance people can put between their GTS and the fastest last gen cards makes their hard earned dollars spent to buy the GTS in the first place, worth all that much more.

Honestly though, I would wait on a few driver revisions first to see what improvements will be had.

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I dont understand why overclocking would be so important.. would you not buy it if it performed better then everything else but couldnt overclock?

I guess the more distance people can put between their GTS and the fastest last gen cards makes their hard earned dollars spent to buy the GTS in the first place, worth all that much more.

Honestly though, I would wait on a few driver revisions first to see what improvements will be had.

I agree- Nvidia has already released the 97.02 drivers for these cards only just today. A lot might shake out over the next month....

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

I think this is the main reason Nvidia didn't want the OEMs to sell pre-overclocked cards - to maintain greater separation between models.

 

[happy medium]

Even if you clock the 8800gts to GTX speed it won't be as fast. The cards are made different.

Read here.. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2870&p=17

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: happy medium
Even if you clock the 8800gts to GTX speed it won't be as fast. The cards are made different.

Read here.. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2870&p=17

Yup, I guess that's why one is $450 and the other is $650.

 

[happy medium]

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo

Originally posted by: happy medium
Even if you clock the 8800gts to GTX speed it won't be as fast. The cards are made different.

Read here.. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2870&p=17

Yup, I guess that's why one is $450 and the other is $650.

Well this is what I meant --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by: Sunrise089
The interesting part of this will be whether or not an OC'd GTS can really match a GTX - a 7900GT could match a 7900GTX it could, since they were basically the same card, but the GTS lacks more than just clockspeed.
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That has me bugged as well.. How can a card that has 32 less stream processors, 64 less bus bits, 4 less rops, etc etc perform the same with a slight overclock?

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As disscused in another thread.
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[Dethfrumbelo]

I think the GTX isn't hitting its full stride yet because of drivers, and I think you'll see its true potential realized in DX10.

Given how the power draw *should* be more for this card than the numbers we've been seeing, it seems like these current games/drivers are not fully utilizing the entire architecture. That was sort of Firingsquad's rationale as well.

I don't think anyone expects the GTS to compete with the GTX when they're running 100% to their capabilities, but I'd definitely like to see some more distance between it and the X1950XTX/7950GX2.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I dont understand why overclocking would be so important.. would you not buy it if it performed better then everything else but couldnt overclock?

thats just the thing, it doesnt perform better that everything else

 

[moonboy403]

just by looking at the performance of an overclocked gts is VERY impressive though

the gains of overclocking looks ridiculously high gaining significant fps even in 1600 x 1200 with 4aa/8af

 

[MadBoris]

I found two more articles saying the GTS can OC well, so firingsquad wasn't a fluke card:

500/800 - stock GTS frequency

BFG GTS 620/907(ntune) - http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8800_preview/page23.asp
BFG GTS 625/1000(ntune) - http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTIxOCwxNiwsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=
Leadtek GTS 615/935(powerstrip) - http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=m...index&req=viewarticle&artid=274&page=5
XFX GTS 630/980(ntune) - http://www.legitreviews.com/article/413/15/

XFX looks like a great clocker with core, and memory looks really good at 980. So I wonder if they are using better memory chips, better binned cores or some other component. Now we just need to see more XFX boards OC to see if XFX really stands out. Otherwise, it looks like hitting 615+ core is pretty expected. The GTX on the otherhand, doesn't hit much above 620 (650 though at HardOCP) so not that much OC headroom on the GTX.
legitreviews only runs 3dmark but gets to about GTX speeds,which in this case with 3dmark, is pretty promising as a straight card to card comparison.
Legitreviews and AMDxone are both using an AMD processor, so might be CPU bound with the actual OC performance a bit. I guess it's time to revisit AMD vs. Core2duo performance now so people can stop saying core2 duo doesn't do much in games cause it's GPU bound .

 

[NeoV]

it's the fastest card available, why worry about OC'ing it now?

 

[Centurin]

The GTS isn't exactly the fastest around. Its not much faster than a X1950XTX. Plus, it loses to the 7950Gx2 in a number of benches.

 

[nib95]

Originally posted by: Centurin
The GTS isn't exactly the fastest around. Its not much faster than a X1950XTX. Plus, it loses to the 7950Gx2 in a number of benches.

Not when it's OC'd