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In the US or Canada, do you think that there's a possibility that there will be a new big city, in terms of Chicago/New York/Toronto/Vancouver?

I've moved back from a smaller town from the central IL to Chicago, and to its credit, it is burgeoning due to its location (within an hour from all the major towns in IL, almost exactly inbetween Chicago/St. Louis/Indianapolis, State Farm HQ is there, etc.) - but is it possible for any city to reach those sizes, or are the current big cities established as far as size cap goes?
 

Cristatus

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It depends for what reason the new city was founded. If it was just founded to put some extra population there, i.e.: just housing, then I don't think so.

But, if the city is the center for some kind of business, and multiple large business come up there, in not only that industry, but several industries, then sure, it may quite be possible. In the end though, it may come down to the appeal of the new city. If it isn't appealing, no one will bother.
 

BlueFlamme

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Originally posted by: logic1485
It depends for what reason the new city was founded. If it was just founded to put some extra population there, i.e.: just housing, then I don't think so.

But, if the city is the center for some kind of business, and multiple large business come up there, in not only that industry, but several industries, then sure, it may quite be possible. In the end though, it may come down to the appeal of the new city. If it isn't appealing, no one will bother.

Isn't Vegas in a situation like this? IIRC they are one of the fastest growing cities in the nation and a lot of people are moving there (or the outlying counties) because of the high housing costs in CA.

Or are you looking for a smaller city that is not part of a metropolitan area turning into a massive city?

For some references to city size, here are estimates from 2004 Of course this does not include outlying areas(Vegas and surrounding counties is estimated at over a million and a half if you count Clark County and Henderson)
 

boggsie

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It depends ... not necessarily in terms of the architechural significance (multiple 100 story buildings) and row after row of apartment buildings.

In terms of people; I think yes, but the geographic area is going to be much wider.
 

Injury

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I could never get my cities past 2Million. I always filled up my landspace then nothing except complaints about housing costs would come up.
 

Descartes

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Look at Atlanta. It's grown almost 100% in about 20 years and is now one of the larger cities. Its incredible density of large companies seems to be more than enough to sustain the growth.
 

K1052

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Yes, most likely.

The amount of construction being done in Chicago is really incredible. High rise construction here is almost out of control.

They are building the new Waterview Tower a few blocks from me and the Trump Tower a little further down. Other high rise condo and office building are springing up like weeds.


 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: HBalzer
I think from DC to Richmond will be just one big ass city

I actually read an article about that somewhere. They were suggesting that urban sprawl would coalesce many of the larger cities in the coming decades. They suggested Portland and Seattle would be almost one, Atlanta and Charlotte, Dallas and Houston, etc. At first I found it hard to fathom, but then I remembered that I can drive sometimes across several states and feel like I never leave the city; there seems to be little separation.
 

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Originally posted by: logic1485
It depends for what reason the new city was founded. If it was just founded to put some extra population there, i.e.: just housing, then I don't think so.

But, if the city is the center for some kind of business, and multiple large business come up there, in not only that industry, but several industries, then sure, it may quite be possible. In the end though, it may come down to the appeal of the new city. If it isn't appealing, no one will bother.



Exactly my thoughts.....
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: HBalzer
I think from DC to Richmond will be just one big ass city

I actually read an article about that somewhere. They were suggesting that urban sprawl would coalesce many of the larger cities in the coming decades. They suggested Portland and Seattle would be almost one, Atlanta and Charlotte, Dallas and Houston, etc. At first I found it hard to fathom, but then I remembered that I can drive sometimes across several states and feel like I never leave the city; there seems to be little separation.

:Q

Now if that really happens/is happening right now, do you think that there's going to be a necessity for a re-definition of those cities' boundaries?
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: HBalzer
I think from DC to Richmond will be just one big ass city

I actually read an article about that somewhere. They were suggesting that urban sprawl would coalesce many of the larger cities in the coming decades. They suggested Portland and Seattle would be almost one, Atlanta and Charlotte, Dallas and Houston, etc. At first I found it hard to fathom, but then I remembered that I can drive sometimes across several states and feel like I never leave the city; there seems to be little separation.

:Q

Now if that really happens/is happening right now, do you think that there's going to be a necessity for a re-definition of those cities' boundaries?



no they should consolidate into 1 city. major consolidation and layoffs. saves lots of tax money.
 

KarenMarie

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i think that with the way that ppl are flooding into this country in droves, it would be only natural that we will have new citites. And if the numbers continue the way they have... we will have another NYC within 50 years.

 

JS80

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You guys should read about South Korea's capital relocation plan. They plan on moving all administrative duties down south to the rural areas so that all the investment capital isn't concentrated in Seoul. It's like wealth redistribution without being socialist. We'll see if it works/worked in 10-15 years.
 

coomar

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urban sprawl, GTA (Toronto) is just going to end up the golden horseshoe

expect the same in the US
 

JS80

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Also, the high real estate prices will help the surrounding suburbs/rural areas to grow.
 
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Originally posted by: JS80
You guys should read about South Korea's capital relocation plan. They plan on moving all administrative duties down south to the rural areas so that all the investment capital isn't concentrated in Seoul. It's like wealth redistribution without being socialist. We'll see if it works/worked in 10-15 years.

They've been talking about this for years. I don't know if this'll actually take place anytime soon.

<-- :roll: at all the talk, no substance of politics (Korean or otherwise)