(Question) Illegal Aliens to get Social Security???

Damage

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I heard Mike Savage on the radio saying that G.W. signed a bill giving $345M in Social Security to illegal aliens in the US.. I haven't been able to verify this through a reputable news outlet, anyone else hear about this? Is it true?
 

StageLeft

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I understood this was for LEGAL aliens to receive it when they are not in the US, NOT illegals.
 

Damage

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Thanks for the article, sorry if this is a repost.. Savage made it sound like this was some kind of secret, so it made me curious..
 

Damage

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"Gabriela Lemus, director of policy and legislation for the League of United Latin American Citizens, said as much as $21 billion in Social Security payments have not been tracked to potential beneficiaries, most likely because they were paid under a false Social Security number. "

Sheeeezzz....
 

Peetoeng

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Originally posted by: Damage
Thanks for the article, sorry if this is a repost.. Savage made it sound like this was some kind of secret, so it made me curious..

Always recheck things you heard from a radio show, especially if it was a factoid from a caller.

Harvest laborers in the US are mostly mexican migrant workers. The employers (american farmers) would hold SS wage from worker's wage and send it to IRS.
 

Vadatajs

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If they have jobs, why do they need SS too? I hated bush before, but now I'm praying for someone to kill him. He'd sooner help poor mexicans than poor americans? Fvcktard.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Damage
"Gabriela Lemus, director of policy and legislation for the League of United Latin American Citizens, said as much as $21 billion in Social Security payments have not been tracked to potential beneficiaries, most likely because they were paid under a false Social Security number. "

Sheeeezzz....

This is what I was tring to tell scoorb about Plenty of illegals using virtually perfect cards for filling out the I9 forms. happens everyday.

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
If they have jobs, why do they need SS too? I hated bush before, but now I'm praying for someone to kill him. He'd sooner help poor mexicans than poor americans? Fvcktard.

Wait till he grants asylum to 8 million as he promised. He's all about helping the top 1% though. Rich farmers, big contruction cos, and Nafta traiters. I may get a whole $1000 back under his plan OMG!!! It's burning a hole in my pocket already!!

That's it, I'm no longer paying taxes.

Move to mexico they have hardly any taxes.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Damage
I heard Mike Savage on the radio saying that G.W. signed a bill giving $345M in Social Security to illegal aliens in the US.. I haven't been able to verify this through a reputable news outlet, anyone else hear about this? Is it true?

damnit! they should go back to there home planet! :p
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Illegal Aliens should get NOTHING but a one-way ticket back home or a one-way ticket back home and a free invitation to the naturalization department.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I understood this was for LEGAL aliens to receive it when they are not in the US, NOT illegals.

That should also be amended. Social Security for legal citizens living within the nation's boundaries.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Vadatajs
If they have jobs, why do they need SS too? I hated bush before, but now I'm praying for someone to kill him. He'd sooner help poor mexicans than poor americans? Fvcktard.

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He signed the bill. That means he wasn't the one to create it. Or the one to lobby for it. Or the one to vote on it. Or the one to approve it. Or the one to send it to the other half of the government to get it approved. Or the one to lobby for it on the other side. Or the one to vote on it on the other side. Or the one to approve it on the other side, making it possible for the bill to go across his desk.

You freaking IDIOTS blame everything on Bush when he's one of a great many cogs in the machine.

:|

If you're going to bash Bush, bash the rest of the government who actually thought this up, as well. If you're not going to bash them, leave him the fvck alone.

Now who's the fvcktard?
 

Damage

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Damage
I heard Mike Savage on the radio saying that G.W. signed a bill giving $345M in Social Security to illegal aliens in the US.. I haven't been able to verify this through a reputable news outlet, anyone else hear about this? Is it true?

damnit! they should go back to there home planet! :p

Sorry, it's not millions, it's billions...

(If top officials at the State Department and Social Security Administration have their way, up to $345 billion ? or more ? could be siphoned from the Social Security "trust fund" over the next couple of decades, mostly to pay benefits to Mexican citizens who worked illegally in the United States.)

For that money they could rent the shuttle and go back to their planet, whatever it is! heheh...
 

NikPreviousAcct

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You do realize that the gub'ment is already stealing from SS, right? By the time I'm old enough to retire, there'll be a national debt and a social security debt.
 

Damage

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ffm.. I think he is mad at Bush FOR signing it.. He has the Veto.. time to use it for this stuff, it's important.. It's not some "I'll pass this and you pass that" type of thing..

I think Fox has dirt on him.. it's the only reason I can think of for this stuff...
 

NikPreviousAcct

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My point was that he wasn't the reason the bill was created. He didn't pass it in both houses. Both houses also had the ability to decline the bill. It went through. There are three parts to a bill becoming law... both houses ratifying it and coming to an agreement, and the President coming to an agreement with them. He, in no way, has more or less power than they do.

....that's.... how the government works, folks.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: TheEvil1
WHAT?????

they dont have SS# how teh fuk they gonna pull that off?

i dont like this

Uh... yeah they do. :confused: When you become a legal citizen, you get a SSN. And, like the thing is talking about, the money would go to legal citizens living in other countries.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I understood this was for LEGAL aliens to receive it when they are not in the US, NOT illegals.

That should also be amended. Social Security for legal citizens living within the nation's boundaries.
Then the code would further need to be amended to that non-citizens don't have to pay SS, right?
 

Damage

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Originally posted by: TheEvil1
WHAT?????

they dont have SS# how teh fuk they gonna pull that off?

i dont like this

They used fake SSN#'s, and it went into a "pool".. maybe eventually they'll get amnesty (read: instant citizenship), and find some way to proove they are owed the money.. (RIIIIGGggghhhttt......)..

ffm, Yes, our other "idiots in white buildings".. Erk.. representatives made the mistake of passing this also, however the buck stops in the oval office and he had the opportunity to stop this.. He didn't.. (Just like the others in govenrment I won't be voting for again.)