i've never really known. my roommate says 20 million Native Americans were killed, but i feel like that's kind of steep. sources would be nice too.
thanks
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Question: how many Native Americans were killed by new world settlers (or 'white men')?
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Deeko
Lifer
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Yea there's this funny thing you can do in the internet. You can post a question on public communications portals...we'll call them "forums"....and people that know the answer can post back!
Why research something that someone else already knows, and can take 5 seconds to type out?
HomeBrewerDude
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Yeah no real way to know for sure. We can only guess.
Then again, what if they were going to be hit by some disease and their entire race would have died except for the Europeans coming here and enhancing the immune systems of those that survived the deseases?
shiner
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You can't find a number because they don't know how many deaths can be directly attributed to the arrival/presence of Europeans. Any number you see will just be a guess, and most have some sort of bias to them.
They also don't know what the population of the various tribes/nations were. Depending on the source you read you will see all sorts of varying numbers.
They also don't know what the population of the various tribes/nations were. Depending on the source you read you will see all sorts of varying numbers.
SmoochyTX
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Come on now. Reports on how many Native Americans that were murdered varies widely. You can read one site that says "this many" and another that says "that many". That's why I told him to research it himself and decide which figure he thinks is more accurate.
:roll:
Queasy
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Yeah, it is hard to tell for sure because you don't know how many were killed by disease unintentionally and how many were killed by wars or other means.
Unfortunately, death was all too common back in those days especially when you start intermingling populations that had never been around each other and they start trading diseases back and forth. See the Black Plague of Europe. That came from the Middle East via trade routes. It had a negligible effect on the Middle East but absolutely decimated Europe.
That said, the Native Americans were generally screwed over by being on the primitive side of technology at the time.
Unfortunately, death was all too common back in those days especially when you start intermingling populations that had never been around each other and they start trading diseases back and forth. See the Black Plague of Europe. That came from the Middle East via trade routes. It had a negligible effect on the Middle East but absolutely decimated Europe.
That said, the Native Americans were generally screwed over by being on the primitive side of technology at the time.
I think 20 million sounds about right if you include the epidemics and such which were a part of Eutopean invasion. And historically when you look at wars you include those who die of disease in the death tolls (for along time this was more than died from battle wounds), and like in the holocaust I'm sure they include people who starved to death or died in a factory too along with those who were gassed.
BoomerD
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http://answers.yahoo.com/quest...31180346AAiiebl&show=7
"In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within 3 years, 5 million were dead.
"By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand.
"Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. The Removal Act of 1830 set into motion a series of events which led to the "Trail of Tears" in 1838, a forced march of the Cherokees, resulting in the destruction of most of the Cherokee population."
As the result of the Homestead Act of 1862, there was blatant genocide of Native populations in California and Texas. In California, the decrease from about a quarter of a million to less than 20,000 is primarily due to cruelties and wholesale massacres.
The concentration of Native American in small geographic areas, and the scattering of them from their homelands, caused increased death, primarily because of associated military actions, disease, starvation, extremely harsh conditions.
One of the most substantial methods to exterminate the Native populations was the premeditated destructions of the buffalo and the flora and fauna which the Native Americans used for food.
Smallpox was not the pathogen that was intentionally introduced to the Native populations . Until 1970 Native children were remove from the reservations and placed in residential schools. At these schools Native children were intentionally exposed to tuberculoses. In many of those schools, the statistics report that 50% of the children died.
95% of the Native population was eradicated and that policy continued well in to the late 1900s. This is not Americas prehistory"
"In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within 3 years, 5 million were dead.
"By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand.
"Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. The Removal Act of 1830 set into motion a series of events which led to the "Trail of Tears" in 1838, a forced march of the Cherokees, resulting in the destruction of most of the Cherokee population."
As the result of the Homestead Act of 1862, there was blatant genocide of Native populations in California and Texas. In California, the decrease from about a quarter of a million to less than 20,000 is primarily due to cruelties and wholesale massacres.
The concentration of Native American in small geographic areas, and the scattering of them from their homelands, caused increased death, primarily because of associated military actions, disease, starvation, extremely harsh conditions.
One of the most substantial methods to exterminate the Native populations was the premeditated destructions of the buffalo and the flora and fauna which the Native Americans used for food.
Smallpox was not the pathogen that was intentionally introduced to the Native populations . Until 1970 Native children were remove from the reservations and placed in residential schools. At these schools Native children were intentionally exposed to tuberculoses. In many of those schools, the statistics report that 50% of the children died.
95% of the Native population was eradicated and that policy continued well in to the late 1900s. This is not Americas prehistory"
BoomerD
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Modelworks
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If the Native Americans knew then what they know now, they would have killed all the pilgrims, burned the boats and guarded the borders.
Instead we make up lies, and teach children in grade school how the first Thanksgiving was so nice and how we made friends with the indians.
Instead we make up lies, and teach children in grade school how the first Thanksgiving was so nice and how we made friends with the indians.
shiner
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"sounds about right" That's real scientific.
By most estimates, and like I said they vary wildly, the native population of the area that is currently the United States was somewhere around 1.5 million individuals when Columbus arrived and was somewhere around 2 to 4 million, again depending on the numbers, by the time of the American Revolution.
If you want to look at the total population numbers of natives from North American through South America the generally accepted number is between 30 and 40 million in the mid 1700's.
I have seen population numbers as high as 25 million for North America and 90 million for North and South America. Those numbers are not taken very seriously by those who study the field.
judasmachine
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