Question for Pro Choice people.. Please no flames..

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: IamDavid
I have never cared one way or another about abortion since I am a man. I've always believed it is "bad" but shouldn't be illegal. Then watching the news today, I think it was on the Today Show, there was a story about a baby who's heart was bad and needed a transplant to survive. The baby was like 8 weeks premature and very small. So I figured since the baby was so small they would have to use another very young, very small heart. So here is my question:
Would it be alright for the parents of the sick baby to find another pregnant woman who is planning to have an abortion and ask her for the unborn child's heart? Ask her to prolong the abortion until the heart is just right for the other child? Its kind of disturbing to me when I think about it but since the pregnancy is going to end in abortion then why not have some good come of it..

this would be totally ilegal.
it is called organ harvesting and would not be allowed. hell they won't even let them take stem cells from aborted fetuses.
this would be unacceptable on many acounts. first one to come to mind besides being ilegal is the fact that the "other" baby that was going to be aborted would have to be carried to close to full term and would be way past the latest stage allowable for an abortion.
in essance you would be killing one baby to save another. aborting a fetus is one thing but a full term baby is another.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: gopunk
my understanding is that the nature of an abortion would leave that option closed.

Ok, why?

well... don't they basically cut the fetus up and remove the pieces? that's just what i've heard at least.

Does it matter, it's a lump of flesh, have you heard of looking in to the cause of death when dealing with bodies that might have been murdered? Would that be okey to you?

So you do not think that women should be able to have an abortion because of what might happen to the fetus afterwards? Have you ever been in this situation, are you at ANY risk at all to be put in such a situation? Oh, i see... you won't ever be in that situation, but still you think you know better than the women that are in that situation... great...

what in god's name are you talking about? i'm just saying that i don't think the little heart transplant idea would work because the heart would probably be all mutilated...

I am sorry... i got to carried away... sorry man... hopefully, forgive me...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: GroundZero
this would be totally ilegal.
it is called organ harvesting and would not be allowed. hell they won't even let them take stem cells from aborted fetuses.
this would be unacceptable on many acounts. first one to come to mind besides being ilegal is the fact that the "other" baby that was going to be aborted would have to be carried to close to full term and would be way past the latest stage allowable for an abortion.
in essance you would be killing one baby to save another. aborting a fetus is one thing but a full term baby is another.

Finally... a voice of reason in this otherwise ugly flame fest.

 

[IamDavid]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: GroundZero
this would be totally ilegal.
it is called organ harvesting and would not be allowed. hell they won't even let them take stem cells from aborted fetuses.
this would be unacceptable on many acounts. first one to come to mind besides being ilegal is the fact that the "other" baby that was going to be aborted would have to be carried to close to full term and would be way past the latest stage allowable for an abortion.
in essance you would be killing one baby to save another. aborting a fetus is one thing but a full term baby is another.

Finally... a voice of reason in this otherwise ugly flame fest.

Unfortunately GroundZero, you are wrong..
1.) The baby in question was about 2 months premature so the heart to replace his with would be able to be around 5 to 6 months. Please read my previous replies..
2.) I asked pro choice people this, not pro life. You are pro life so I already knew your side. The law on the other hand says a fetus is not a human life so why not use it for good if its just going to be disposed of?
3.) Illegal? In what way? Please show me a law that gives any right to the fetus to stop this from happening...

I know its a very disturbing idea to think about whether your a pro choice or not. I just wanted to see were pro choice people stood. I did not want this thread to become a flame war between the two sides but apparently people can't read very good and couldn't understand the question.. I've said it a few times already and I'll say it again: I just don't want to see the premature baby die for no reason.. If a viable heart can be found why not use it?

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Zombie
That just sounds so wrong. But then again most ground breaking things sound wierd at first. But still in this case it feels very very wrong.

I am for the womans choice.

So am I, damn it. How can a woman be forced into deciding if she wants the baby or not before it's born? She can't possibly know how much hassle or drag on her social life it will or won't be and God forbid she endure a hassle. We should give women a few years to figure it out and if they decide they don't want it anymore they can have it injected with acid or torn apart by vacuums or something fantastically civilized like that.

Now that's an option,lol, I bet there'd be a lot fewer of you holier than thou types here🙂

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: IamDavid
1.) The baby in question was about 2 months premature so the heart to replace his with would be able to be around 5 to 6 months. Please read my previous replies..

Now, this keeps coming up, and is irrelevant at best (which is bad news for this thread, because it's the topic), and I don't know whay I didn't say it earlier, save the point of abstract discussion likely, but the heart doesn't have to be the same size/age. Just a couple weeks ago I heard about an infant of some such age or another that needed a heart transplant. She got an adult male's heart.

 

[IamDavid]

Originally posted by: godmare

Originally posted by: IamDavid
1.) The baby in question was about 2 months premature so the heart to replace his with would be able to be around 5 to 6 months. Please read my previous replies..

Now, this keeps coming up, and is irrelevant at best (which is bad news for this thread, because it's the topic), and I don't know whay I didn't say it earlier, save the point of abstract discussion likely, but the heart doesn't have to be the same size/age. Just a couple weeks ago I heard about an infant of some such age or another that needed a heart transplant. She got an adult male's heart.

godmare, thats true in most cases but in this case the baby is so tiny the replacement heart would have to be a newborns or a pre birth heart.. The baby was so small it could fit in the doctors 2 hands.. 🙁

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: IamDavid
godmare, thats true in most cases but in this case the baby is so tiny the replacement heart would have to be a newborns or a pre birth heart.. The baby was so small it could fit in the doctors 2 hands.. 🙁

Oh, I see.

 

[jhu]

if this were to be done, would the kid need to take any immunosuppressive medications after this procedure?

 

[IamDavid]

Originally posted by: jhu
if this were to be done, would the kid need to take any immunosuppressive medications after this procedure?

I would imagine so.. Not sure how the docs could no the dosage or anything though.. It would be very dangerous but the kid will die without a transplant anyway.