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Question for Ottawanians? Ottawans? Ots? Canadians from Ottawa

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Exterous

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We spent about a week in different parts of Ottawa and I just wanted to see if you guys were ok? That was probably the most negativity we've heard from random Canadians like ever and covered quite the spectrum from LCBO/Ford to economy/housing, healthcare, Trudeau, with more than a sprinkling of racism. Granted could just be luck of who we bumped into and whatnot.

Also ya'll have an interesting relationship with speed limits but that's a different thing
 
Exterous said:
We spent about a week in different parts of Ottawa and I just wanted to see if you guys were ok? That was probably the most negativity we've heard from random Canadians like ever and covered quite the spectrum from LCBO/Ford to economy/housing, healthcare, Trudeau, with more than a sprinkling of racism. Granted could just be luck of who we bumped into and whatnot.

Also ya'll have an interesting relationship with speed limits but that's a different thing
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to be completely honest, Canadians are not that much different from Americans. We debate, argue and complain about politics just like everyone else.

Our economy isn't very strong and inflation is still a major problem in Canada. However, most Canadians try to roll with the punches and just go about regular lives.

Also, while we may complain about things, we are still pretty easy going and friendly folk.
 
i've got some relatives who moved across the border from new york like 150 years ago and still live on the outskirts of ottawa

from what i can tell from their facebook pages they're all a bunch of hillbillies and none of them speak french
 
It's pretty heated here politically these days due to bad economy, high crime, drug epidemic etc which has been a result of the Trudeau regime and just overall bad policy making. He's also a narcisist POS. Just saw a speech of him recently saying that boomers are living in houses too big for them and they should give them up and downsize so that other people can get the houses. Like F off. They worked their asses off to be able to get to that point in life. Stuff like that. Meanwhile he owns several luxery cottages and flies to them all the time with tax payer funded security detail. He's just so out of touch.

I have not really followed the whole LCBO thing but I think they are mad because the provincial government wants to make alcohol more easily available so it means they are losing a part of the pie. I can't fault them for striking and believe in that right, but at same time, they are lucky they are making 30+ an hour to work in retail. Being public employees I doubt their jobs are going anywhere even if corner stores will be able to sell booze.

I do question the timing of this policy though. Out of all the issues going on right now such as the drug and crime epidemic it seems to me making alcohol more accessible probably shouldn't be the priority. The drug and crime, and even economy is not 100% a Trudeau issue, it's provincial too, but also happening in every province. The governments need to just stop bickering and actually work together to fix it. Municipalities too.
 
Almost all the Canadians I have met online and in person have been really nice. I only know one guy who is a bit argumentative and toxic at times.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
Shit what do they feed Canadians if they've alive for 150 years?
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Pure maple syrpul.

Washington state had state liquor control board stores where you bought spirits, wine, and higher ABV beer/malt liquor. You could buy 3.2% “Mormon beer” in the grocery stores…with limited hours…no Sunday sales, not after 0200 or before 10 am. (IIRC)
In 2012, the voters passed a law that allows the private stores to sell liquor. Because the employees of the state liquor stores were state employees, they got absorbed into different departments…and a hidden surcharge was added to the cost of alcoholic beverages to cover their salaries/training, etc. I think that was supposed to only go for a few years…but, of course, WA loves its tax money…so prices never went down.
 
sdifox said:
What makes you think Canadians are not like that?
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Iron Woode said:
Also, while we may complain about things, we are still pretty easy going and friendly folk.
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We live pretty close to the border so I've known a fair number of Canadians who cross over for work. We've also spent quite a bit of time in a number of provinces, especially Ontario. So like I said could have just been the luck of who we ran into but it felt like there was a different undertone this trip
 
Red Squirrel said:
It's pretty heated here politically these days due to bad economy, high crime, drug epidemic etc which has been a result of the Trudeau regime and just overall bad policy making. He's also a narcisist POS. Just saw a speech of him recently saying that boomers are living in houses too big for them and they should give them up and downsize so that other people can get the houses. Like F off. They worked their asses off to be able to get to that point in life. Stuff like that. Meanwhile he owns several luxery cottages and flies to them all the time with tax payer funded security detail. He's just so out of touch.

I have not really followed the whole LCBO thing but I think they are mad because the provincial government wants to make alcohol more easily available so it means they are losing a part of the pie. I can't fault them for striking and believe in that right, but at same time, they are lucky they are making 30+ an hour to work in retail. Being public employees I doubt their jobs are going anywhere even if corner stores will be able to sell booze.

I do question the timing of this policy though. Out of all the issues going on right now such as the drug and crime epidemic it seems to me making alcohol more accessible probably shouldn't be the priority. The drug and crime, and even economy is not 100% a Trudeau issue, it's provincial too, but also happening in every province. The governments need to just stop bickering and actually work together to fix it. Municipalities too.
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The problem with boomers is that they came up in a period of extreme growth with still very low cost of living. They have since hoarded that wealth and it affects all the following generations.

I dont have hate for boomers but saying that they had it just as hard as following generations is just not right.

With thay said, plenty of boomers are just as bad off as us these days after rapid loss of jobs that paid well for relatively little training (clerical, secretary, skilled manual labor. Etc) and have no savings/retirement and now faced with high COL.
 
What MAY have happened to OP is very similar to what one gets from VOLUNTARY response "surveys". Those are KNOWN to produce biased results because people who have STRONG opinions are much more likely to offer their input, and at length! So you hear a LOT of opinions from one particular direction if you only hear what people volunteer to say (yell?). I doubt that OP set out to make his / her own random selection of opinion givers, so heard a lot from complainers.
 
BoomerD said:
Pure maple syrpul.

Washington state had state liquor control board stores where you bought spirits, wine, and higher ABV beer/malt liquor. You could buy 3.2% “Mormon beer” in the grocery stores…with limited hours…no Sunday sales, not after 0200 or before 10 am. (IIRC)
In 2012, the voters passed a law that allows the private stores to sell liquor. Because the employees of the state liquor stores were state employees, they got absorbed into different departments…and a hidden surcharge was added to the cost of alcoholic beverages to cover their salaries/training, etc. I think that was supposed to only go for a few years…but, of course, WA loves its tax money…so prices never went down.
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It's not hidden at all, there's a line item on the receipt that specifically calls out the liquor tax everywhere I buy it. It's about $6-7 on 1.75L of booze. Curiously enough, when I go to Portland (where there's no sales tax) it costs about the same as it does here (they have a state board that sets prices). It's only a few bucks more than it was in Nebraska, where there was only regular sales tax.
 
deadlyapp said:
The problem with boomers is that they came up in a period of extreme growth with still very low cost of living. They have since hoarded that wealth and it affects all the following generations.

I dont have hate for boomers but saying that they had it just as hard as following generations is just not right.

With thay said, plenty of boomers are just as bad off as us these days after rapid loss of jobs that paid well for relatively little training (clerical, secretary, skilled manual labor. Etc) and have no savings/retirement and now faced with high COL.
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Oh true they got lucky that COL was way less in their days and money went further for a good part of their lives. My parents built their house for under 100k in '86. You can't even buy a run down house for that much anymore. Bills and other costs of living were much lower as well, and the permitting and bureaucratic process was also less harsh than it is now.

But regardless they still worked most of their lives, so let them enjoy their last years and keep what they worked for. Trudeau constantly trying to tell people what to do or what they should do is one of the reasons he's hated. Just GTFO of people's lives! Unfortunately, this is government in general though. As much as I hope the conservatives will be better they probably will eventually be just as bad. The first few years of a new government are usually good then it just goes right back to what it was before.
 
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