Question for GeForce (specifically ELSA) users

vinson

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I have an ELSA Geforce card in my computer. The 2d Windows performance (under Win98, WinME, Win2K, and WinNT) is absolutely horrid. I get very noticible diagonal refresh lines that run through the screen continually. I don't notice this in 3d games just in the 2d environment. I would suspect my monitor but I had no such problems with my TNT card or the Voodoo3 3000 I ran for a while. I was curious if anyone else is seeing similar things? I suspect it is specific to the ELSA card but I can't be too sure.

Dane R. Vinson
 

RoboTECH

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1) overclocking?

2) use a different card and test?

3) Drivers?

4) Monitor type>?
 

vinson

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1. No overclocking.
2. As I said I had no such problems with my TNT or Voodoo3 3000 though with the GeForce card I have had the same problem on both a Abit BH6 MB with a P2-450 and my new Asus A7V with Thunderbird-900.
3. I've tried the last three versions of the GeForce detonator reference drivers.
4. Panasonic S70.
 

Compellor

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I've read reports of TRINITRON tube type monitors having this problem with not just GeForce video cards, but others as well.
 

vinson

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Yes I tried to change the refresh rate. Win9x only lets you change it to "Optimal" or "Defualt" no change with either. WinNT/2K lets you adjust it through a whole range of different options but even at 85 hz the problem persists. I have a hard time believing it is the monitor since two other graphics cards I've used didn't do this but who knows. Thanks for the suggestions though everone.
 

Theslowone

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I had slight jumping in my monitor. Almost like the letters where barely bouncing. It did it in Linux too. But when i changed my monitor to 640 by 480 at 160hz it was as stable as can be. So i tried at 1280*1024 at 85 but i still could notice the jumps, i then changed to 1152*864 at 100 hz and the monitor is fine. I dont know what was, but for some reason it just look like the letters where barley moving. I changed cards also and the problem was not there. But i like my geforce so i switched back and kept it at 1152 * 864 at 100 hz.

Also i dont know if win98 has it but winme allows the user to change the refresh rate to what ever is able. I cant remember if it was a box you had to check or what.
 

jpprod

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Did you try changing monitor timing setting under Display Properties/GeForce256/Additional Properties/Other Options from Auto Detect into General Timing Formula (GTF) or Discrete Monitor Timing (DMT)? Only guessing, but if it is a monitor timing related issue, this setting could have an effect on the 2D image quality.

Seeing that TNT and V3 worked well, this could even be a faulty card though.
 

RoboTECH

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have you tried reinstalling your monitor drivers?

are you runnning your refresh past specified limits?