After witnessing the abuses of full Republican control in Washington for several years, what do you dems think of the possibility of a full democratic majority in Washington, and possibly even a democratic supermajority? Do you believe the rich Dem lawyers will be any more responsible with their power than the rich Republican lawyers? If so, what are your reasons?
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Yes. And it all begins once Hillary concedes her primary race this week and begins campaigning for Obama in swing states like PA and OH.
Remember that all the polls for Obama (which still show him as a strong general election candidate) have been taken during a period when he's been attacked from both sides, by McCain and the Republicans and by Hillary's strong Democratic base.
Once Hillary and Obama both go on the offensive for his general election ticket, McCain will be resigned to Iraq talking points and "stinking corpse" speeches in nursing homes across America.
Remember that all the polls for Obama (which still show him as a strong general election candidate) have been taken during a period when he's been attacked from both sides, by McCain and the Republicans and by Hillary's strong Democratic base.
Once Hillary and Obama both go on the offensive for his general election ticket, McCain will be resigned to Iraq talking points and "stinking corpse" speeches in nursing homes across America.
Absolutely not. In addition to disagreeing with most of the liberal platform in general, I don't want either of the extremists from these 2 retard parties in total control under any circumstances any more. Divided government is what I want, and is the only insurance we the people have and the only possibility we have that they might try to work together. Otherwise, if unchecked, both parties will abuse their power. They can't help it.
m1ldslide1
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The way you word this, it's impossible to say no. How could anybody be any more irresponsible than the republicans have over the last 8 years?
To me, both parties represent pretty much the same thing. One of them just happens to offend me less, and doesn't regard the middle/working class with utter contempt. Or at least they try a little harder to mask it.
YES! As of today, 4,086 American troops have died in the Buswhackos' war of lies. I can think of two valid legal theories under which that would constitute 4,086 counts of murder. And that before we get into the crimes against the tens of thousands more American troops wounded, scarred and disabled for life in their illegal war.
They shredded the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution with their unwarranted domestic spying. AFIC, that's treason.
The willingly, knowingly, explicitly committed acts of abduction and torture, which are illegal under U.S. and international law. They are guilty of war crimes and other crimes against humanity.
Haliburton and their subsidiary and affiliate companies and others of their good contributors have massively over-charged for the work they are alleged to have done in Iraq, much of which was documented to be riddled with fraud and incompetence... if they did it, at all.
The list of just the crimes we already know about could take volumes of text and days or weeks to write.
I want a majority strong enough to stop any attempt to block investigations into the treason, murder, torture, war crimes and utter incompetence of the Bushwhacko administration and their corrupt war profiteering buddies.
I want any and all of them found guilty to be given lifetime all expenses paid vactations at the beautiful downtown Guantanamo Hilton with free daily passes on the exciting waterboard ride.
Waterboarding isn't torture. The Bushwhackos said so themselevs, and we can believe them... right? :roll:
They shredded the rights guaranteed to every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution with their unwarranted domestic spying. AFIC, that's treason.
The willingly, knowingly, explicitly committed acts of abduction and torture, which are illegal under U.S. and international law. They are guilty of war crimes and other crimes against humanity.
Haliburton and their subsidiary and affiliate companies and others of their good contributors have massively over-charged for the work they are alleged to have done in Iraq, much of which was documented to be riddled with fraud and incompetence... if they did it, at all.
The list of just the crimes we already know about could take volumes of text and days or weeks to write.
I want a majority strong enough to stop any attempt to block investigations into the treason, murder, torture, war crimes and utter incompetence of the Bushwhacko administration and their corrupt war profiteering buddies.
I want any and all of them found guilty to be given lifetime all expenses paid vactations at the beautiful downtown Guantanamo Hilton with free daily passes on the exciting waterboard ride.
Waterboarding isn't torture. The Bushwhackos said so themselevs, and we can believe them... right? :roll:
What if they in turn block investigations into their own transgressions, of which there will be plenty if they achieve such a majority?
m1ldslide1
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Not a bad idea, really. I pretty much see the same outcome as you, but rather as a result of the last 50 years of foreign and domestic policy rather than anything that a single first-term president can do. Can you say Hooverville?
I don't really see a situation in which the democrats -- after campaigning all fall under a promise of unity -- will spend their political capital and the beginning of a historic presidency be rehashing the past 8 years and grinding old axes.
Bitek
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Eh, at the worst it will serve to balance out the abuses of the right over the last 8 odd yrs, but the Dems will eventually go too far with it, F things up, get people pissed, and will get thrown out of office. And so the circle is complete. Question is how long will it take?
I can hope. There once was a country called the United States of America. They had a courthouse they called the Supreme Court, and over the main entrance they inscribed the words, EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW.
I lived in that fabled nation. It once really worked that way... or at least, it was a lot closer to that ideal than it has been since the Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal stole it from the citizens of that once great nation.
Lemon law
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Somewhat of a foolish question. It really depends on the GOP. If the GOP really think they are on a mission from God to rearguard perpetuate the failed policies of GWB&co as they have amply demonstrated since 11/06, they truly deserve to join the dodo and the trilobite in the list of vanished and dysfunctional species.
If the GOP is ready to return to its real roots that it abandoned with Nixon, Reagan, and GWB, then it does indeed deserve a right to survive. Other wise, a more diverse democratic party can let its more conservative members fulfill the traditional role of the GOP.
At the end of the day, its the American voters who will decide. What part of the 81 % of American voters that think this country is on the wrong course does the GOP leadership fail to understand?
If the GOP is ready to return to its real roots that it abandoned with Nixon, Reagan, and GWB, then it does indeed deserve a right to survive. Other wise, a more diverse democratic party can let its more conservative members fulfill the traditional role of the GOP.
At the end of the day, its the American voters who will decide. What part of the 81 % of American voters that think this country is on the wrong course does the GOP leadership fail to understand?
Unless Clinton wins the nomination and the Presidency. Then I want a Democratic majority
I want Clinton to win :thumbsup:
Democrats and Republicans and Libertarians are all dying. Something new is coming. Abandon your preconceptions if you want in.
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