Question for all religious people...

tcG

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Why did God put us on Earth in the first place; if heaven is such a great place and God is such a great entity, than why are we existing in a place anything less than heaven?
 

irishScott

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Because god was lonely according to the bible. He wanted his creation to have life.

IIRC
 

hjo3

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Well folks, that does it. He's disproved all religions. Atheism should be the new world-wide belief system by tomorrow morning.
 

tcG

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Originally posted by: irishScott
Because god was lonely according to the bible. He wanted his creation to have life.

IIRC

Is life not considered life in heaven? I didn't know the perceived state-of-mind/literal location had anything to do with what we call "life".

Even if what you're saying has any shred of truth to it, than this contradicts what the Bible says about God being a god of peace. God, being a reasonable/good entity, would see what havoc his creation has caused on a place less than heaven, and would take them back. This [obviously] has not happened yet. Furthermore, I thought God was perfect and wouldn't make such a mistake.
 

paulxcook

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Perhaps God doesn't exist to make you feel good.

Is the next question about a rock so big God couldn't lift it? :roll:
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: tcG
Why did God put us on Earth in the first place; if heaven is such a great place and God is such a great entity, than why are we existing in a place anything less than heaven?

Read the old testament. All your questions are answered there.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: hjo3
Well folks, that does it. He's disproved all religions. Atheism should be the new world-wide belief system by tomorrow morning.

Onward Atheists Soldiers! I shall eat the child on my tummy!
 
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Originally posted by: tcG
Why did God put us on Earth in the first place; if heaven is such a great place and God is such a great entity, than why are we existing in a place anything less than heaven?

heaven is nothing something that is granted to all. Mortal life is the test.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Y'know, that's a very good question.

When the earth was created, it was perfect, fwiw.

That is true. This is why Christians are better than others. They strive for continuous improvement. The Japanese call this "Kaisan". Like it's some "new thing."

It's all about striving to be a better person and loving they neighbor. This is why Christians are the best.

Even better if they're Catholic, because man are they some horny little tarts.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: tcG
Originally posted by: irishScott
Because god was lonely according to the bible. He wanted his creation to have life.

IIRC

Is life not considered life in heaven? I didn't know the perceived state-of-mind/literal location had anything to do with what we call "life".

Even if what you're saying has any shred of truth to it, than this contradicts what the Bible says about God being a god of peace. God, being a reasonable/good entity, would see what havoc his creation has caused on a place less than heaven, and would take them back. This [obviously] has not happened yet. Furthermore, I thought God was perfect and wouldn't make such a mistake.

God gave us free will. He cannot directly keep us from sinning.
 

tcG

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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: tcG
Originally posted by: irishScott
Because god was lonely according to the bible. He wanted his creation to have life.

IIRC

Is life not considered life in heaven? I didn't know the perceived state-of-mind/literal location had anything to do with what we call "life".

Even if what you're saying has any shred of truth to it, than this contradicts what the Bible says about God being a god of peace. God, being a reasonable/good entity, would see what havoc his creation has caused on a place less than heaven, and would take them back. This [obviously] has not happened yet. Furthermore, I thought God was perfect and wouldn't make such a mistake.

God gave us free will. He cannot directly keep us from sinning.

Are you saying that in order for us to be tested as mortals on Earth, the granting of free will was necessary?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: tcG
Are you saying that in order for us to be tested as mortals on Earth, the granting of free will was necessary?

Now you are getting it.
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: tcG
Originally posted by: irishScott
Because god was lonely according to the bible. He wanted his creation to have life.

IIRC

Is life not considered life in heaven? I didn't know the perceived state-of-mind/literal location had anything to do with what we call "life".

Even if what you're saying has any shred of truth to it, than this contradicts what the Bible says about God being a god of peace. God, being a reasonable/good entity, would see what havoc his creation has caused on a place less than heaven, and would take them back. This [obviously] has not happened yet. Furthermore, I thought God was perfect and wouldn't make such a mistake.

God gave us free will. He cannot directly keep us from sinning.

What do you mean he "cannot"? He's meant to be omnipotent, there's nothing he can't do.
 

tcG

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: tcG
Are you saying that in order for us to be tested as mortals on Earth, the granting of free will was necessary?

Now you are getting it.

There's nothing to "get". One of the fundamental differences between what you believe and what I believe is free will. I hate to break it to you, but it's all synapses and electric charges up there.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: hjo3
Well folks, that does it. He's disproved all religions. Atheism should be the new world-wide belief system by tomorrow morning.

Works for me. :thumbsup:
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: tcG
Originally posted by: irishScott
Because god was lonely according to the bible. He wanted his creation to have life.

IIRC

Is life not considered life in heaven? I didn't know the perceived state-of-mind/literal location had anything to do with what we call "life".

Even if what you're saying has any shred of truth to it, than this contradicts what the Bible says about God being a god of peace. God, being a reasonable/good entity, would see what havoc his creation has caused on a place less than heaven, and would take them back. This [obviously] has not happened yet. Furthermore, I thought God was perfect and wouldn't make such a mistake.

God gave us free will. He cannot directly keep us from sinning.

What do you mean he "cannot"? He's meant to be omnipotent, there's nothing he can't do.

Whatev. I dunno and I'm honestly not religious enough to care.

I believe in god and I'm willing to give Jesus the benefit of the doubt. I practice what is probably the most secular form of Christianity on the planet, therefore I have no knowledge of the "high principles" of any religion.

In any case, he whole point of faith is to believe. Not to know, but to believe.
 
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Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: tcG
Originally posted by: irishScott
Because god was lonely according to the bible. He wanted his creation to have life.

IIRC

Is life not considered life in heaven? I didn't know the perceived state-of-mind/literal location had anything to do with what we call "life".

Even if what you're saying has any shred of truth to it, than this contradicts what the Bible says about God being a god of peace. God, being a reasonable/good entity, would see what havoc his creation has caused on a place less than heaven, and would take them back. This [obviously] has not happened yet. Furthermore, I thought God was perfect and wouldn't make such a mistake.

God gave us free will. He cannot directly keep us from sinning.

What do you mean he "cannot"? He's meant to be omnipotent, there's nothing he can't do.

rather, he chooses not to. Forcing people to worship/love him destroys the whole point of it all.
 

SsupernovaE

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Because he wanted to see the look on our faces when we found out that its turtles all the way down :p