Question concerning replacing an XBOX 360 dvd drive

seeknowsage

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So I've had some trouble with my XBOX 360 being unable to read discs that were in pristine condition for some time now. Specifically, I'd experience "unreadable disc" issues with both new and old games alike. Sometimes the XBOX 360 would load the game and I'd be able to play a bit before I was told during the course of the game that the disc could no longer be read. Other times, it would spin the disc in the drive and after a few minutes I'd receive an "unreadable disc" warning, or it would simply not recognize a disc in the tray at all.

Things finally came to a head with the new Batman: Arkham Asylum game. I'd try playing it, but within just a few seconds if it loading, I'd receive the "unreadable disc" error and be kicked back to the dashboard. This happened without fail. Since then, the XBOX refuses to read any disc whatsoever (including dvd movies). It just doesn't recognize them at all. (I can hear its dvd drive spinning, but to no avail.)

This isn't the first time I've had this problem. While it was under warranty, I had to send it back to Microsoft on two separate occasions. Apparently they were unable to fix the problem themselves, aside from temporarily patching it up.

At this point in time, however, it is no longer under warranty, and I'm not particularly inclined to give Microsoft any more money to resolve this issue. Therefore, I'm considering ordering a dvd drive to replace the malfunctioning one. (After a process of elimination, I'm 99% certain this is the issue, given that the XBOX still starts and operates normally in every other way apart from being able to read discs.)

So my question is this: If I replace the XBOX 360 dvd drive with one with the exact same model and firmware, will I run the risk of being banned from XBOX live?

I've looked around for an answer regarding this, but I seem unable to find one that definitively stated "yes" or "no".

Please note that in under no certain terms has this XBOX been modified in any way (such as incorporating the ability to play "backups"), and I want to keep it that way. I don't want to perform any modifications to it that Microsoft would view as a "no no". In fact, apart from replacing the dvd drive, I don't want to perform any "modifications" to it at all. Period.

I just want my damn XBOX back up and running, and without Microsoft potentially throwing a hissy fit that I decided to fix it myself. ;)
 

Spineshank

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Only M$ can be 100% sure. Read the TOS..they can ban you from Xbox Live if you sneeze and they dont like it. Ive replaced numerous dvd drives for people and not one has been banned so far.
 

RaiderJ

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You can't replace the DVD drive with another without modification. This is because each DVD drive is keyed to the console it is installed into. In order to swap in a new drive, you'd have to read the drive firmware of your current drive, get the key, and reprogram a new drive with that key. Once you do that you have essentially modified the system, and would be subject to a potential ban.

The upside: last I read into all of this, the latest hacks are pretty sophisticated. If you stick to genuine 360 discs, or extremely well made copies, it seems that the detection rate is almost zero.

The downside: you need to be willing to do a lot of very complicated procedures to complete this modification (although this may be easier than the last time I looked into it).


My suggestion: buy a new arcade model, transfer your old data, sell the old system on ebay/AT. It'll be your cheapest/easiest/fastest way to get a working 360, and someone who wants a modded system can buy your old one and get just that with some work.
 

svirchow1

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^_^An easier method would be swapping the circuit board in the old drive, and put it in the new drive. That way your Xbox thinks its the old drive, therefore you don't get banned.
 

mindcycle

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^_^An easier method would be swapping the circuit board in the old drive, and put it in the new drive. That way your Xbox thinks its the old drive, therefore you don't get banned.

This.

If you buy the same model drive, simply replace the controller card and you'll be good to go. The drive key is stored on the controller card so MS couldn't ban you because they would have no way of knowing you made that change.
 

svirchow1

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Yep. Just did this about 10 minutes ago actually. I have the Samsung/Toshiba drive, and my Xbox works like a dream now! No Xbox LIVE ban either. (gamertag- orion1379)
 

mindcycle

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lol just realized the op in this thread is from october..
 
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mindcycle

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Holy Crap! haha. lol. do you think seeknowsage will see this?

Maybe, but I would think he/she would have probably already figured out a solution by now. No harm really, maybe this thread will help some people out who are experiencing this problem right now.