Question about the Star Trek: TNG episode "Rascals"

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I think my largest problem with that episode was that they basically discovered how to rig the transporter into a makeshift fountain of youth and they're all just whining about how to get old again.

So what happens when the younger Picard materializes and all of a sudden his artificial heart is to big for his body... or maybe he materializes and he doesn't notice that his regenerated heart and his artificial heart are having a death match inside his body?
 

Bateluer

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So what happens when the younger Picard materializes and all of a sudden his artificial heart is to big for his body... or maybe he materializes and he doesn't notice that his regenerated heart and his artificial heart are having a death match inside his body?

The transporter doesn't effect DNA, it wouldn't regenerate a new heart. His artificial heart would be a problem though.
 

Triumph

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You have to suspend your disbelief when watching a lot of TNG episodes. But it's worth it. :) Some of the best stories and best characters in sci-fi, stupid children episodes notwithstanding.
 

Jeff7

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You have to suspend your disbelief when watching a lot of TNG episodes. But it's worth it. :) Some of the best stories and best characters in sci-fi, stupid children episodes notwithstanding.
Here's another fun one:
Any time something heavy falls on someone while in a starship or starbase, it's a big deal to try to lift it off.
Idea: Turn off the artificial gravity.
Nah...



:)

What's wrong with two sets of tits? Double your pleasure, double your fun!
"Eyes up, Commander.........FARTHER THAN THAT, DAMMIT!"
 
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Triumph

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Here's another fun one:
Any time something heavy falls on someone while in a starship or starbase, Worf tries to lift it off, but can't. Data comes over and easily removes the item.

Fixed it for you. :)
 

Merad

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Fixed it for you. :)

Or first season TNG... Enemies appear, Worf snarls, and gets his ass kicked by the first one he meets.

How Michael Dorn put up with that first season I don't know. But I'm damned glad he did.
 

cubby1223

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Jeff7

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Or first season TNG... Enemies appear, Worf snarls, and gets his ass kicked by the first one he meets.

How Michael Dorn put up with that first season I don't know. But I'm damned glad he did.
And bless the infinite supply of regenerating redshirts. No matter how many were used as exposition to demonstrate clearly, "Yes, this situation is perilous, in case you hadn't noticed, audience," there were always 1,014 people on Enterprise.

Maybe they had dedicated freighters for shuttling in fresh disposable ensigns.



Senior officers also had much better healthcare. If an ensign gets shot, all he gets is a quick pulse check and a tricorder scan. "He's dead." Done, that's it.
Senior officer gets shot or stabbed or blown up? Well holy shit, get those charred remains to sick bay, or the transporter, or something! We'll devote the resources of the entire ship to reconstituting this crispy slurry back into a functioning Lieutenant again!
 
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her209

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Here's more evidence that points to the shrinking clothes theory:

Near the end of the episode, the young Jean Luc Picard stands on the teleporter with his form fitting uniform. O'Brien presses a few buttons on the LCARS teleporter console and the captain is back to his old self. But if you notice, the uniform also fits him perfectly with no stretching.
 

silverpig

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Besides, the worst "that doesn't make sense" offense in TNG was the one where Geordi, Ro, and that romulan guy got phase-cloaked and were walking around the ship. They could pass through food, the walls, other people, but not the floor. Or the air.
 

Jeff7

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I just checked the episode (Amazon Prime:)). Yes, their clothes are a baggy and oversized when they first beam aboard, but only slightly.

Picard seems to be the only one who shows any signs of caring - everyone else just glances around and stands there like they're only marginally conscious. :D
"Dammit, it's another one of those days. Oh well."
 

Newbian

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Besides, the worst "that doesn't make sense" offense in TNG was the one where Geordi, Ro, and that romulan guy got phase-cloaked and were walking around the ship. They could pass through food, the walls, other people, but not the floor. Or the air.

I don't think they tried going through the floor but it seemed gravity still worked on them when they were like that.
 

mmntech

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rascals_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

Ok, so in the episode, Capt. Picard, Guinan, Ensign Ro, and Keiko O'Brien get transformed into their younger selves due to an anomaly with the transporter, but how come their clothes shrank too? Also, I don't think Picard has a British accent but his younger self has one, but isn't Picard a Frenchman?

Picard follow the basic law of cliche filmmaking. Any foreign white person who is not Russian MUST have an English accent. This is regardless of time period, which is why all ancient Romans and Greeks spoke with upper crust London accents. It's a known historical fact. ^_^
 

silverpig

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I don't think they tried going through the floor but it seemed gravity still worked on them when they were like that.

They don't have to "try", they would just fall right through the floor.

Lift foot up. Put foot down. Goes right through floor.
 

Locut0s

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Besides, the worst "that doesn't make sense" offense in TNG was the one where Geordi, Ro, and that romulan guy got phase-cloaked and were walking around the ship. They could pass through food, the walls, other people, but not the floor. Or the air.

Yeah I remember thinking that too, everyone did. But then you're talking about a show that relies on Heisenberg compensators and inertial dampeners. Best not to try poking too many holes. ;)
 

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Yeah I remember thinking that too, everyone did. But then you're talking about a show that relies on Heisenberg compensators and inertial dampeners. Best not to try poking too many holes. ;)

I thought the Heisenberg compensator was used as part of a trick by picard one time. I can't remember the episode but I think somebody wanted transporter technology and he was stalling.

I remember now, it was a Moriarty episode. It was pretty cear he was making stuff up. Of course that doesn't explain the rest of the tech they had.
 

Fritzo

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Besides, the worst "that doesn't make sense" offense in TNG was the one where Geordi, Ro, and that romulan guy got phase-cloaked and were walking around the ship. They could pass through food, the walls, other people, but not the floor. Or the air.

Or how about in the Darmok episode where the Enterprise fired a phaser through its torpedo bay?

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02ranger

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Or how about in the Darmok episode where the Enterprise fired a phaser through its torpedo bay?

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Haha. I didn't catch that one. One episode that always got me was the early one where the whole ship got sick as if they were drunk, and Data got it too. How does an android get drunk?
 

SagaLore

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Besides, the worst "that doesn't make sense" offense in TNG was the one where Geordi, Ro, and that romulan guy got phase-cloaked and were walking around the ship. They could pass through food, the walls, other people, but not the floor. Or the air.

I came back to this thread just to post that. :)

I think Voyager had a similar episode.

At the very least, they could have made it more plausible by explaining that the floor was lined with a gravity plating that their bodies still interacted with, and briefly shown that their shoes in fact sunk into the floor a little while they stood. Also, that they could breath because the electrostatic charge of the air allowed respiration to function effectively. So even though they were out of phase electromagnetically, all of the other weak and strong forces still worked. At the end of the episode they should have needed a lot of recovery due to dna oxidation.
 

Fritzo

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I came back to this thread just to post that. :)

I think Voyager had a similar episode.

At the very least, they could have made it more plausible by explaining that the floor was lined with a gravity plating that their bodies still interacted with, and briefly shown that their shoes in fact sunk into the floor a little while they stood. Also, that they could breath because the electrostatic charge of the air allowed respiration to function effectively. So even though they were out of phase electromagnetically, all of the other weak and strong forces still worked. At the end of the episode they should have needed a lot of recovery due to dna oxidation.

Them having to wear respirators when they were doing the repairs would have fixed that as well. Also it would have added a sense of urgency with a limited air supply.
 

SagaLore

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Them having to wear respirators when they were doing the repairs would have fixed that as well. Also it would have added a sense of urgency with a limited air supply.

Only would have worked if they wore full space suits. Otherwise in their phase they'd be in a vacuum and their cells would start rupturing just before freezing.