Question about shifting gears with tiptronic/paddle shift

[DVad3r]

Manual you ease off the gas, clutch, shift, gas.

Automatic you just hold your foot down.

What is the procedure for tiptronic/paddle shift? Do I just hold my foot on the gas and gear up? Or do I take my foot off the gas and gear up then gas again?

 

[DVad3r]

whoops lol, you can move this to garage forum

 

[amdhunter]

Hold foot on the gas and gear up -- unless it's an SMG I guess.
Who has an M3 that can answer the SMG part?

 

[EightySix Four]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Hold foot on the gas and gear up -- unless it's an SMG I guess.
Who has an M3 that can answer the SMG part?

Quote from a BMW blog

1. you do nothing- you are holding the gas pedal during the shift - in this case the shift is the slowest. i can speculate why, but not the point

2. you slightly lift and hold it lifted for a split second right when you tug the shifter- this results most often than not in a very very slow shift which in lower s and d modes can be acompanied with an automated second throttle blip.. (on upshift). could be extremely slow...

3. you slightly lift and depress without delay right when you tug the shifter - this will result in a slightly faster shift, but comparable to the unassisted shift. i think most people fall in this category.

4. now- the good one - you tug the shifter, then when the shifter returns to its initial position (cant explain that split of a second in better way) THEN you lift and depress the accellerator in fluid motion.. almost like post-factum of the shift command. when done right this results in very quick and decisive shift. i am a good manual shifter and i can rip gears very fast, but when shifted that way the smg in s5 is as fast (if not faster) and s6 is impossible to duplicate.

 

[DVad3r]

What do the manuals say? Btw I am gathering this knowledge for the IS-F today

 

[EightySix Four]

Originally posted by: DVad3r
What do the manuals say? Btw I am gathering this knowledge for the IS-F today

Not a fan of the IS-F, there are better choices for the money. Just keep your foot on the gas and don't worry about it, the computer will sort it out. That's the point.


"Lexus, in pursuit of perfection, Audi, BMW, and Mercedes Benz."


edit: Didn't mean to diss the ride, and it's nicer than what I'm driving

 

[DVad3r]

Holy everyone is hating the IS-F! IS there anyone actually out there that does like the car?

 

[JulesMaximus]

The salesman will tell you what to do. With that car I think you can just put it in D and go though.

I hate the paddle shifters on my wife's IS...I'm not a fan of flappy paddle gear boxes though. I almost never use them.

 

[aleckz]

I love the looks of the IS-F, hell I'd take one and wouldn't say a peep.

Personally I'd get the 135 w/ TT if I were looking into a sportier car, then you could flash it and be even happier.

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The salesman will tell you what to do. With that car I think you can just put it in D and go though.

I hate the paddle shifters on my wife's IS...I'm not a fan of flappy paddle gear boxes though. I almost never use them.

you trust a salesman to know the best shifting technique?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: aleckz
I love the looks of the IS-F, hell I'd take one and wouldn't say a peep.

Personally I'd get the 335 w/ TT, and seat 5 people if I were looking into a sportier car, then you could flash it and be even happier.

fixed for practicality

at $56k, i'd be looking at a CTS-V. yeah, they start at 66, but you might be able to talk the dealer down (probably not though )

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: vshah

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The salesman will tell you what to do. With that car I think you can just put it in D and go though.

I hate the paddle shifters on my wife's IS...I'm not a fan of flappy paddle gear boxes though. I almost never use them.

you trust a salesman to know the best shifting technique?

I'd trust him/her to at least know how to operate a car like the IS-F without doing damage to it yes.

Last year at the Los Angeles auto show they had an IS-F on a dyno and they were letting people get in it and do a run through the gears. I'm sure it was just some Lexus shlub giving them instruction and then letting them get behind the wheel and pounding it through the gears.

Honestly, I don't think he'll be able to fuck it up too badly...it's just a freaking car.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: aleckz
I love the looks of the IS-F, hell I'd take one and wouldn't say a peep.

Personally I'd get the 335 w/ TT, and seat 5 people if I were looking into a sportier car, then you could flash it and be even happier.

fixed for practicality

at $56k, i'd be looking at a CTS-V. yeah, they start at 66, but you might be able to talk the dealer down (probably not though )

CTS-V is super rare here and you won't find one to test drive till some time. Also didn't GM cease operations of their performance division thus ceasing future advancement of the car? Would be risky to buy one.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: vshah

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The salesman will tell you what to do. With that car I think you can just put it in D and go though.

I hate the paddle shifters on my wife's IS...I'm not a fan of flappy paddle gear boxes though. I almost never use them.

you trust a salesman to know the best shifting technique?

I did a lot of test drives this year and I can say that he probably won't. Most of them don't even know the specs of the cars like how much HP they have etc. I was always under the assumption that you gotta know your shit as a dealer but I guess not.

Actually the only guy that knew what he was talking about was the GMC guy when we drove the Canyon.

 

[DVad3r]

"Lexus, in pursuit of perfection, Audi, BMW, and Mercedes Benz."

I'd say some Lexus cars are better than their competitors, and def more reliable.

 

[JJ650]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: aleckz
I love the looks of the IS-F, hell I'd take one and wouldn't say a peep.

Personally I'd get the 335 w/ TT, and seat 5 people if I were looking into a sportier car, then you could flash it and be even happier.

fixed for practicality

at $56k, i'd be looking at a CTS-V. yeah, they start at 66, but you might be able to talk the dealer down (probably not though )

CTS-V is super rare here and you won't find one to test drive till some time. Also didn't GM cease operations of their performance division thus ceasing future advancement of the car? Would be risky to buy one.

They stopped development of any future SS, or V on NEW models. Anything currently wearing the V or SS badge will continue. So as I understand, if the next model is based off the current platform, it will can have the 'V' badge applied and the pertinent mechanics applied. If the model is a new generation or completely reworked, there will be no special performance modifications.

In regards to your original question;
With our TL-S, you can just shift it over to 'manual' and shift how you please regardless of the gas pedal. The paddle shifters seem to be slower than the column shifter. The wife never uses it at all and I use it to down shift (auto rev matching downshifts). Other than that, we don't use it often.

 

[woodie1]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: vshah

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The salesman will tell you what to do. With that car I think you can just put it in D and go though.

I hate the paddle shifters on my wife's IS...I'm not a fan of flappy paddle gear boxes though. I almost never use them.

you trust a salesman to know the best shifting technique?

I did a lot of test drives this year and I can say that he probably won't. Most of them don't even know the specs of the cars like how much HP they have etc. I was always under the assumption that you gotta know your shit as a dealer but I guess not.

Actually the only guy that knew what he was talking about was the GMC guy when we drove the Canyon.

Yep, it a rare car salesman who knows his product inside and out today. I have been given answers to questions that were totally wrong more times than I can count.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: woodie1

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: vshah

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The salesman will tell you what to do. With that car I think you can just put it in D and go though.

I hate the paddle shifters on my wife's IS...I'm not a fan of flappy paddle gear boxes though. I almost never use them.

you trust a salesman to know the best shifting technique?

I did a lot of test drives this year and I can say that he probably won't. Most of them don't even know the specs of the cars like how much HP they have etc. I was always under the assumption that you gotta know your shit as a dealer but I guess not.

Actually the only guy that knew what he was talking about was the GMC guy when we drove the Canyon.

Yep, it a rare car salesman who knows his product inside and out today. I have been given answers to questions that were totally wrong more times than I can count.

If they're giving test drives of the IS-F, a limited production high performance sedan, I would think whoever does the ride along would know something about the car...at least enough that they could advise a perfect stranger how to operate it correctly.

When we bought our IS the Lexus salesman was actually very knowledgeable about it.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: woodie1

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: vshah

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The salesman will tell you what to do. With that car I think you can just put it in D and go though.

I hate the paddle shifters on my wife's IS...I'm not a fan of flappy paddle gear boxes though. I almost never use them.

you trust a salesman to know the best shifting technique?

I did a lot of test drives this year and I can say that he probably won't. Most of them don't even know the specs of the cars like how much HP they have etc. I was always under the assumption that you gotta know your shit as a dealer but I guess not.

Actually the only guy that knew what he was talking about was the GMC guy when we drove the Canyon.

Yep, it a rare car salesman who knows his product inside and out today. I have been given answers to questions that were totally wrong more times than I can count.

If they're giving test drives of the IS-F, a limited production high performance sedan, I would think whoever does the ride along would know something about the car...at least enough that they could advise a perfect stranger how to operate it correctly.

When we bought our IS the Lexus salesman was actually very knowledgeable about it.

Ill let you guys know tonight how it went. I'm going to ask all the dumb questions like how much HP it has, how many cylinders, etc.

 

[ivan2]

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Holy everyone is hating the IS-F! IS there anyone actually out there that does like the car?

liked the car, not the poseurs.

 

[krunchykrome]

You just shift as far as I know

We have a TSX, and when I use the sport shifter thing, I just shift while I'm driving.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Holy everyone is hating the IS-F! IS there anyone actually out there that does like the car?

i think it's a very good looking car. the interior is gorgeous and the rims are badass. it looksway better than the cts-v or m3. that's my personal preference and as everyone here stated it won't put up the same numbers, but depending on what you're using it for i dont know how important that is to you.

i sat in one at the philly auto show and was supposed to go test drive one just for kicks sometime but i've been busy.

 

[RichUK]

I don't think I could live with SMGII in my car.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

To tell you the honest truth I was about to purchase an 05 M3 over my GTI, but dear jesus that SMG transmission is horrible. The DSG is light years ahead of in it terms of usability

 

[RichUK]

Manual FTW.

Wouldn?t mind test driving an E92 M3 with M-DCT, though.