Question about salary negotiation

[bolido2000]

Is it ok to tell a potential employer (already got the offer) that my current job offered me the same amount X as them, so I would hope they improve the offer?

 

[Sluggo]

Only if you are prepared to hear that they found someone with the same qualifications as you that is willing to work for less...would you mind if they lowered their offer.

 

[Argo]

Did you accept the offer? If no I would simply state "It would take this much for me to accept, since I'm already making that much at my job". Just be careful, you don't want them to think that you're playing both companies against each other in a bidding war cause that may scare them off.

In other words, give solid numbers, don't just ask them to raise their offer. If they offered you $80k and your other job matched that, tell them it'll take $90k for you to accept. They'll probably offer you $85 and you both will be happy.

 

[bolido2000]

How would this different from the regular "counteroffer" letter one writes after receiving an offer letter?

EDIT: Yeah I read in some website that bidding wars rarely work.

 

[tm37]

Did you accept the offer?

I am having an inview / offer meeting tommorow and once you accept the offer then you are kinda screwed.

I will take the offer I review home and then respond the followin day.

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: Argo
Did you accept the offer? If no I would simply state "It would take this much for me to accept, since I'm already making that much at my job". Just be careful, you don't want them to think that you're playing both companies against each other in a bidding war cause that may scare them off.

In other words, give solid numbers, don't just ask them to raise their offer. If they offered you $80k and your other job matched that, tell them it'll take $90k for you to accept. They'll probably offer you $85 and you both will be happy.

They offered 55K. In the application I already put that I want 65K (before getting the offer). I was thinking to counteroffer with 60K.

I got the offer today. Gotta respond by Friday if I accept or not.

 

[Dufman]

Well, you have to take into account the benifit packages between the two jobs. I took my new job, i actually make less every two weeks than i did before, but my old job was costing me more money because of the 500 or so miles i put on a week to see clients that the company did not pay me for, not to mention a slew of out of pocket expenses.

Also, take into consideration vacation time, health insurance costs, misc. time away from work...

Money isnt everything.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: bolido2000

Originally posted by: Argo
Did you accept the offer? If no I would simply state "It would take this much for me to accept, since I'm already making that much at my job". Just be careful, you don't want them to think that you're playing both companies against each other in a bidding war cause that may scare them off.

In other words, give solid numbers, don't just ask them to raise their offer. If they offered you $80k and your other job matched that, tell them it'll take $90k for you to accept. They'll probably offer you $85 and you both will be happy.

They offered 55K. In the application I already put that I want 65K (before getting the offer). I was thinking to counteroffer with 60K.

I got the offer today. Gotta respond by Friday if I accept or not.

Is the new job a better job? Or did it just pay more. Obviously you are doing OK at your current place if they offered to match. For me I have turned down my too biggest offers as I did not like the jobs so I will go into this new venture not just concerned about the money but more concerned about the job..

I made 55K last year and liked my job.

I was on pace to make 75K at the job before that and I Hated it. Even after taking the HUGE pay hit they could not have gotten me back at the old job.

I got laid off because I refused to move to chicago and I did not like the NEW postion on chicago.

Don't just look at the money I have had sh!tty jobs that paid well and good jobs that paid less. I was overall happier at the better jobs

 

[bolido2000]

I guess I didn't explain the situation and I know I'm gonna get flamed 😛
My current job doesn't know about this offer and most likely won't match it either. The pay is higher, 401K, better benefits, and triple vacation time at this new job. I don't know where I will be happier honestly. I'm a new grad, and I don't have much experience. I like my current job and my coworkers, but the pay sucks. I was thinking of counteroffering because...well...that's the expected thing to do. Sort of. I guess is a bad idea to lie about my current employer matching the offer. I will just ask if they can do 60K. Currently reading some websites to find out the best way to ask this question 🙂

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: bolido2000
I guess I didn't explain the situation and I know I'm gonna get flamed 😛
My current job doesn't know about this offer and most likely won't match it either. The pay is higher, 401K, better benefits, and triple vacation time at this new job. I don't know where I will be happier honestly. I'm a new grad, and I don't have much experience. I like my current job and my coworkers, but the pay sucks. I was thinking of counteroffering because...well...that's the expected thing to do. Sort of. I guess is a bad idea to lie about my current employer matching the offer. I will just ask if they can do 60K. Currently reading some websites to find out the best way to ask this question 🙂

Ask for 65K and settle on 60K

 

[KEV1N]

If you don't have much experience, why do you feel as though you're worth more than 55K? I'm not flaming you... honest question.

 

[trmiv]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: bolido2000
I guess I didn't explain the situation and I know I'm gonna get flamed 😛
My current job doesn't know about this offer and most likely won't match it either. The pay is higher, 401K, better benefits, and triple vacation time at this new job. I don't know where I will be happier honestly. I'm a new grad, and I don't have much experience. I like my current job and my coworkers, but the pay sucks. I was thinking of counteroffering because...well...that's the expected thing to do. Sort of. I guess is a bad idea to lie about my current employer matching the offer. I will just ask if they can do 60K. Currently reading some websites to find out the best way to ask this question 🙂

Ask for 65K and settle on 60K

What he said.

I got an offer much lower than I wanted for my current job. So I countered about $5000 higher than I wanted. Ended up getting exactly what I wanted, and will go up to $2000 more than I wanted after 3 months (provided I don't screw up of course).

But, go where you will be happy. Trust me, don't get stuck in a job you don't enjoy because it pays well.

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: KEV1N
If you don't have much experience, why do you feel as though you're worth more than 55K? I'm not flaming you... honest question.

well...almost everything I read says that the initial offer an employer gives you is the lower end of what they willing to pay you. I guess making a counteroffer is expected and part of the prototocol. I have like 1.5years of experience.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: KEV1N
If you don't have much experience, why do you feel as though you're worth more than 55K? I'm not flaming you... honest question.

because he is in CA.. everything here is crazy expensive

 

[KEV1N]

Ah, well shoot for as high as you can without jeopardizing your offer. Usually pay is commensurate on experience, with the floor being your current pay. Unless you are switching professions... which sometimes involves a pay cut!