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Question about racism....

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In your opinion, at what point, or is there a point where comments stop being racist and start adhering to the law of statistics?
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
In your opinion, at what point, or is there a point where comments stop being racist and start adhering to the law of statistics?
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That comment is offensive to my people :| I demand an edit and an apology!
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
In your opinion, at what point, or is there a point where comments stop being racist and start adhering to the law of statistics?
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People are going to cry ***ism no matter what. If they don't like what you're saying, they're going to cry ***ism about it, even if it's 100% true and backed up with indisputable evidence.
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
In your opinion, at what point, or is there a point where comments stop being racist and start adhering to the law of statistics?
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It is indeed a very fine line.

Stereo-types aren't just made up... they are usually based on statistics. Stereo-types almost always have a large kernel of truth underlying them... whether it is a white, black, asian stereo-type.
 
To devolve racism into a statistical base you must take into account the variious forms and preponderance of data and to whence it points.

I, for one, refuse to delve into this ubiquitous realm of numbers and digits that may lead to a lesser understanding of the human condition.

All hail The Triad!
 
The problem is that statistics follow laws, but their uses do not. People can use statistics to "prove" anything.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
In your opinion, at what point, or is there a point where comments stop being racist and start adhering to the law of statistics?
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People are going to cry ***ism no matter what. If they don't like what you're saying, they're going to cry ***ism about it, even if it's 100% true and backed up with indisputable evidence.
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Unless you're talking about white people, then it's okay. :|
 
As an overweight redneck, I feel this thread is an affront to me and my people.

<------ off to complain of Forum Issues
 
Originally posted by: Mallow
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
In your opinion, at what point, or is there a point where comments stop being racist and start adhering to the law of statistics?
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It is indeed a very fine line.

Stereo-types aren't just made up... they are usually based on statistics. Stereo-types almost always have a large kernel of truth underlying them... whether it is a white, black, asian stereo-type.
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true that stereotypes are based on some underlying truth but that same truth is not applicable in every situation...thus it is not a 'universal' truth and merely an observation of a particular instance by a particular person

for instance it is a stereotype that asians are smart but not every asian is smart
 
I've actually seen white supremacists try to use biological explanations to prove their superiority over other races. Pretty sad really.
 
Originally posted by: her209
I've actually seen white supremacists try to use biological explanations to prove their superiority over other races. Pretty sad really.
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Yeah every race has it's idiots.
 
The real problem is that with most subjects people trust math and statistics. If you were talking about the various traits of different breeds of dogs, people would think logically and not get worked up about it. But as soon as you start talking about people, some people get emotional about it, and can't keep emotional reaction out of their thoughts. They get so bad in fact that they don't want anybody discussing any issue that has anything to do with genetics or race.

Hell, many people in this country aren't even educated enough to believe in evolution, so how could you explain to them that different races of humans evolved in reaction to different conditions?
 
I only consider someone racist if they make baseless judgements on a specific person based on generalized stereotypes.
 
Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing


true that stereotypes are based on some underlying truth but that same truth is not applicable in every situation...thus it is not a 'universal' truth and merely an observation of a particular instance by a particular person

for instance it is a stereotype that asians are smart but not every asian is smart
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For a stereotype to hold true, it doesn't need to hold true in every instance, just most instances. The stereotype about Asians being good at math obviously won't apply to every Asian on Earth, but Asians as a whole do outscore every other race in math tests.

You might say that "wasps sting" or "dogs bark", but I'm sure that you can find instances where this doesn't hold true. Once again, it only needs to be right most of the time for the stereotype to be useful.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Hell, many people in this country aren't even educated enough to believe in evolution, so how could you explain to them that different races of humans evolved in reaction to different conditions?
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Wrong. I think many people understand the basic idea. You're assuming that since they believe in a religion that they don't also believe that evolution occurs.

One can still say that things evolve, even if they don't fully believe in Darwin's version of evolution.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing


true that stereotypes are based on some underlying truth but that same truth is not applicable in every situation...thus it is not a 'universal' truth and merely an observation of a particular instance by a particular person

for instance it is a stereotype that asians are smart but not every asian is smart
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For a stereotype to hold true, it doesn't need to hold true in every instance, just most instances. The stereotype about Asians being good at math obviously won't apply to every Asian on Earth, but Asians as a whole do outscore every other race in math tests.

You might say that "wasps sting" or "dogs bark", but I'm sure that you can find instances where this doesn't hold true. Once again, it only needs to be right most of the time for the stereotype to be useful.
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asian = tiny penis'
black = large penis'
white = moderate.

black women are loud and arrogant.

they all can be proved to a point. but not true in 100% of the instances.

racism is what you define. people on here have a very very low tolerance for it. other boards are higher. depends on background, where you grew up, what you grew up with.

MIKE
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
is saying "asians eat a lot of rice" racist? seriously
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Yes. Russia is an Asian country.
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good job!! "asian" isn't a race, but many people think of it that way

Is "european" a race? What about "american"?
 
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
In your opinion, at what point, or is there a point where comments stop being racist and start adhering to the law of statistics?
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My opinion is that you're a racist if you say "Members of X race should die.", but are just stating the facts and/or being ignorant if you say "Members of X race can't drive well."
 
can someone provide a list of "races" because i tend to get confused about nationalities vs races

if i say most french people smell bad, is that "racist" or "nationalist" or what?

what about if i say most black people enjoy playing basketball? seems quite true for "american black people" but not "african black people" right?

i'm confused...
 
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
can someone provide a list of "races" because i tend to get confused about nationalities vs races

if i say most french people smell bad, is that "racist" or "nationalist" or what?

what about if i say most black people enjoy playing basketball? seems quite true for "american black people" but not "african black people" right?

i'm confused...
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Race and culture can both affect stereotypes. EX redneck vs pansy city boy(white for this example), both are white but there are clear differences. Now when you campare say a white guy and a black guy who both grew up in the same surroundings then you will likely see differences as well but not always. and the inverse is also true.


Now a question for everybody? and I;m going to continue to use white and black for examples here.

why is it considered racist if you label a normal black man as just black but a lowlife a N****r(omited just in case I offend somebody even though it shouldn't), but it's fine to label a lowlife white guy as white trash or whatever other term you want to use.

Call me racist if you want but I think a white guy ought to be able to call a black (any other race as well) an offensive name and have it not be considered racist, but just an insult to the particular individual.
 
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