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nick1985

nick1985

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my work gave me an old busted up server. it was a dual P3 board, but only with 1 processor. there is no marking on the processor besides the "pentium3" i also have no way i can test it. i checked the computers model number online and it can be anywhere from 800 to 1Ghz. how can i tell what i have?


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i just feel kinda weird putting it on ebay "its a P3, err...i dont know what speed"
 
nick1985

nick1985

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no, i have no way of testing it. the PSU on this thing is toast, and it has special connectors on the mobo. i have no way of finding out. :(

i looked all over this thing for markings, but i cant find anything.

"compaq 056001" is all that is on the CPU besides "pentium 3" i googled, but nothing.
 
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Paperlantern

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what about on the edge opposite the slot connector, anything printed? all processors i have EVER seen will have a silverish/tannish printing on them to tell thier speed, for example, i have a PII here, that on the edge has "80522PX266512" written on it, and the last part says 266512, meaning 266MHz, 512 kb L2 Cache, see if anything is there
 
nick1985

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Paperlantern
what about on the edge opposite the slot connector, anything printed? all processors i have EVER seen will have a silverish/tannish printing on them to tell thier speed, for example, i have a PII here, that on the edge has "80522PX266512" written on it, and the last part says 266512, meaning 266MHz, 512 kb L2 Cache, see if anything is there
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you are a smart man ;)

600eb/256/133/1.65

does that mean its 600mhz? i thought it was higher clocked :(
 
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Yeah that's a 600MHz 133FSB model.
 
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Paperlantern

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yepper, 600MHz, if it makes you feel better, the eb indicates it was manufactured using the 0.18 micron die process, rather than the .25 micron like some slightly cheaper models of that range of processor, others using no indicators, or JUST the b indicator were both using .25 micron. Which means.... not a whole hell of a lot, other than you might have a Coppermine rather than a Katamai, basically a second generation pentium III... if memory serves, feel free to correct if i'm not, because i'm not 100% on this =)
 
ScrapSilicon

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Originally posted by: Paperlantern
yepper, 600MHz, if it makes you feel better, the eb indicates it was manufactured using the 0.18 micron die process, rather than the .25 micron like some slightly cheaper models of that range of processor, others using no indicators, or JUST the b indicator were both using .25 micron. Which means.... not a whole hell of a lot, other than you might have a Coppermine rather than a Katamai, basically a second generation pentium III... if memory serves, feel free to correct if i'm not, because i'm not 100% on this =)
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Coppermine..
Chip manufactured with 0.18 micron technology;
106 sq. mm Coppermine (CuMine) core with 28mln transistors;
Slot-1 and Socket-370 versions available;
32KB L1 cache (16KB for data and 16KB for instructions);
256KB L2 cache situated inside the processor core and working at full processor frequency;
Slot-1 version is provided with SECC2 processor cartridge, Socket-370 - with FC-PGA (Flip-Chip PGA) form-factor;
SSE SIMD-instructions;
Power voltage: 1.6V;
Supported frequencies: for Slot 1 version - 533 (133MHz system bus), 600 (100 and 133MHz system bus), 650(100MHz system bus), 667 (133MHz system bus), 700 (100MHz system bus), 733MHz (133MHz system bus); forSocket370 version - 500 and 550MHz (100MHz system bus).
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of the S370 variant ..
 
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Paperlantern

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Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
Originally posted by: Paperlantern
yepper, 600MHz, if it makes you feel better, the eb indicates it was manufactured using the 0.18 micron die process, rather than the .25 micron like some slightly cheaper models of that range of processor, others using no indicators, or JUST the b indicator were both using .25 micron. Which means.... not a whole hell of a lot, other than you might have a Coppermine rather than a Katamai, basically a second generation pentium III... if memory serves, feel free to correct if i'm not, because i'm not 100% on this =)
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Coppermine..
Chip manufactured with 0.18 micron technology;
106 sq. mm Coppermine (CuMine) core with 28mln transistors;
Slot-1 and Socket-370 versions available;
32KB L1 cache (16KB for data and 16KB for instructions);
256KB L2 cache situated inside the processor core and working at full processor frequency;
Slot-1 version is provided with SECC2 processor cartridge, Socket-370 - with FC-PGA (Flip-Chip PGA) form-factor;
SSE SIMD-instructions;
Power voltage: 1.6V;
Supported frequencies: for Slot 1 version - 533 (133MHz system bus), 600 (100 and 133MHz system bus), 650(100MHz system bus), 667 (133MHz system bus), 700 (100MHz system bus), 733MHz (133MHz system bus); forSocket370 version - 500 and 550MHz (100MHz system bus).
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of the S370 variant ..
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excellent, thank you ScrapSilicon =)
 
ScrapSilicon

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Originally posted by: Paperlantern
Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
Originally posted by: Paperlantern
yepper, 600MHz, if it makes you feel better, the eb indicates it was manufactured using the 0.18 micron die process, rather than the .25 micron like some slightly cheaper models of that range of processor, others using no indicators, or JUST the b indicator were both using .25 micron. Which means.... not a whole hell of a lot, other than you might have a Coppermine rather than a Katamai, basically a second generation pentium III... if memory serves, feel free to correct if i'm not, because i'm not 100% on this =)
Click to expand...

Coppermine..
Chip manufactured with 0.18 micron technology;
106 sq. mm Coppermine (CuMine) core with 28mln transistors;
Slot-1 and Socket-370 versions available;
32KB L1 cache (16KB for data and 16KB for instructions);
256KB L2 cache situated inside the processor core and working at full processor frequency;
Slot-1 version is provided with SECC2 processor cartridge, Socket-370 - with FC-PGA (Flip-Chip PGA) form-factor;
SSE SIMD-instructions;
Power voltage: 1.6V;
Supported frequencies: for Slot 1 version - 533 (133MHz system bus), 600 (100 and 133MHz system bus), 650(100MHz system bus), 667 (133MHz system bus), 700 (100MHz system bus), 733MHz (133MHz system bus); forSocket370 version - 500 and 550MHz (100MHz system bus).
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of the S370 variant ..
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excellent, thank you ScrapSilicon =)
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you are welcome..you should change your bitrate to at least 128 ..your station sounds good :) <edit> woooo...you bumped it up a notch :D ..bumpin' nicely now :D
 
nick1985

nick1985

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so i have a coppermine 600 P3? sounds good.

well actually its a dual P3 compaq ml350 proliant server. my work was throwing away so i volunteered to take it ;)

i have a couple questions.

there was only 1 CPU in it, and in the other slot, This was in the CPU's place. what the heck is it? :confused:


also, there is this hugeCard. it appears to be a SCSI, NIC, and a video card all-in-one. is that what it is?

i know price checks are against forum rules, but i was wondering how much you guys think this server could fetch on Ebay. it has...

1 600P3(i think only 1)
that SCSI/NIC/VID card
1 SCSI cable
no hard drives
no PSU
256 pc-133
floppy
cd rom
and the mobo of course, and the case


excuse my n00bness with this. i didnt get started on computers till the P4 days.
:eek:
 
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If you look on ebay you can probably track down another 600mhz CPU to match that one for not too much money. Probably no more than about $30. The trick will be that power supply. But for probably no more than $100 invested you could have yourself a nice little dual P3 system. Would be great as a file server, gaming server (if you do the LAN party thing), or something of the like. Have fun.

PS. This isnt a critizism, but I find it funny...i was lookin at those pics, 2 pics of the heatsink? :) Can't tell much from that.
 
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Paperlantern

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the link doesnt work for me, but i have worked on those servers in, and out of warranty, usually LARGE cards in proliants, are RILO boards, a type of remote administration device for the server, plus alot more i'm sure, but thats what ive picked up about em, ive swapped a few out, this one may not be, but usually the larger board like that are.... and the thing that was in the cpus place, i dont know the techie term for it, even though i should since i am a tech, lol, is just a place holder, if i'm not mistaken the computer may not boot properly without it, IF there is no second cpu.

and ScrapSilicon, i WOULD LOVE to bump it up to 128. but the problem is, we only have approximately 600kbps upstream, and we have had as many as 6 or 7 listeners at a time, 128 x 7 = one terrible sounding station on 296kps LESS than we need, lol. granted most times we only have 1 or 2, average 4, but i liek to have headroom for my own use too, lol, 896kbps just isnt something we have... i'm actually happy to have the 600ish that we DO have, thats high for your average cable connection.

Do you like flickerstick? because seriously, ive seen them like 5 times in concert, best live band i have ever seen, and i have seen a good many concerts, if you got time, listen to it a bit more, there are some live shows on there, including one from columbus, that we were at, great band =) if you liek em, we have copies of the shows and have sent a great many out via mail, no charge of course, whats one more? lol

and thanks for the linkage to the station, i encourage ppl to check it out, if only for a few minutes, you wont be disapointed, awesome rock band
 
nick1985

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Paperlantern
the link doesnt work for me, but i have worked on those servers in, and out of warranty, usually LARGE cards in proliants, are RILO boards, a type of remote administration device for the server, plus alot more i'm sure, but thats what ive picked up about em, ive swapped a few out, this one may not be, but usually the larger board like that are.... and the thing that was in the cpus place, i dont know the techie term for it, even though i should since i am a tech, lol, is just a place holder, if i'm not mistaken the computer may not boot properly without it, IF there is no second cpu.

and ScrapSilicon, i WOULD LOVE to bump it up to 128. but the problem is, we only have approximately 600kbps upstream, and we have had as many as 6 or 7 listeners at a time, 128 x 7 = one terrible sounding station on 296kps LESS than we need, lol. granted most times we only have 1 or 2, average 4, but i liek to have headroom for my own use too, lol, 896kbps just isnt something we have... i'm actually happy to have the 600ish that we DO have, thats high for your average cable connection.

Do you like flickerstick? because seriously, ive seen them like 5 times in concert, best live band i have ever seen, and i have seen a good many concerts, if you got time, listen to it a bit more, there are some live shows on there, including one from columbus, that we were at, great band =) if you liek em, we have copies of the shows and have sent a great many out via mail, no charge of course, whats one more? lol

and thanks for the linkage to the station, i encourage ppl to check it out, if only for a few minutes, you wont be disapointed, awesome rock band
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hmmm ok. any estimates out there on how much that rig could fetch? im wondering because im trying to figure out a fair starting bid for this thing. :)
 
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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Paperlantern
the link doesnt work for me, but i have worked on those servers in, and out of warranty, usually LARGE cards in proliants, are RILO boards, a type of remote administration device for the server, plus alot more i'm sure, but thats what ive picked up about em, ive swapped a few out, this one may not be, but usually the larger board like that are.... and the thing that was in the cpus place, i dont know the techie term for it, even though i should since i am a tech, lol, is just a place holder, if i'm not mistaken the computer may not boot properly without it, IF there is no second cpu.

and ScrapSilicon, i WOULD LOVE to bump it up to 128. but the problem is, we only have approximately 600kbps upstream, and we have had as many as 6 or 7 listeners at a time, 128 x 7 = one terrible sounding station on 296kps LESS than we need, lol. granted most times we only have 1 or 2, average 4, but i liek to have headroom for my own use too, lol, 896kbps just isnt something we have... i'm actually happy to have the 600ish that we DO have, thats high for your average cable connection.

Do you like flickerstick? because seriously, ive seen them like 5 times in concert, best live band i have ever seen, and i have seen a good many concerts, if you got time, listen to it a bit more, there are some live shows on there, including one from columbus, that we were at, great band =) if you liek em, we have copies of the shows and have sent a great many out via mail, no charge of course, whats one more? lol

and thanks for the linkage to the station, i encourage ppl to check it out, if only for a few minutes, you wont be disapointed, awesome rock band
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hmmm ok. any estimates out there on how much that rig could fetch? im wondering because im trying to figure out a fair starting bid for this thing. :)
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Yeah, while you people are at it. How much would this be worth? :p

Athlon XP 1700+
MSI nForce2 Motherboard
1GB PC2700 memory
 
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Paperlantern

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well, my best guess, in its current, non bootable state, $200 - $300, depending on what Gen it is, ml350s had 3 gens, otherwise known as G1, G2 and G3, my guess is its a G1, probably a 4 or 6U unit if its rackable. Or it could be a tower, i dont think i saw it specified either or, but thats what i think it would go for, TOPS, since no HDD and no power supplies, and only 1 cpu...
 
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